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Are these wages correct

39 replies

monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 17:46

I'm really really thick when it comes to any maths so hoping someone can help me as this doesn't seem right.

I have a term time only job but I'm paid every month regardless so obviously it's pro rata . £10.50ph 14 hours a week. I have been paid £441 twice now. I don't pay tax. Is this right?

I keep getting around the £588 mark?

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Longdistance · 24/08/2022 17:50

National Insurance? Pension deduction?

BrieAndChilli · 24/08/2022 17:52

You need to do

10.50 x 14 = £147 per working week.
am assuming 39 working weeks a year - norm for school terms

£147 x 39 = £5733

divide that by 12 to get your monthly salary
5833/12 = £477.75 a month

you need to know exactly how many weeks a year a classes as working - your school might be slightly less or if you don’t work inset days etc that might decrease it

FitAt50 · 24/08/2022 17:52

Are you paid every month or every 4 weeks. Does your Pay slip show tax and National Insurance deductions.

MarshaMelrose · 24/08/2022 17:54

Sorry, are you getting 441 or 588?

If the lower amount, sometimes even though its term time only, they carry on paying you over the holidays but because you're not earning, they spread what you're earning to cover the extra weeks. I think it helps payroll. And I'm pretty sure it gives you some rights, as well, but apologies if I haven't remembered that correctly.

butmumineedit · 24/08/2022 17:54

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I guess you work in a school so at a quick glance it's £10.50 x14 x38 (school weeks) divide by 12 months which comes to £465.66 so time pension and NI comes off it looks about right .
Hope this helps

monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 17:55

No NI or Tax £24 for pension deducted. Why am I not paying NI?

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monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 17:56

@BrieAndChilli I work in a doctors surgery not a school, so not sure if the 39 weeks counts? My manager said he'd also paid me two days holiday in that £441 too

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monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 17:56

I'm getting paid £441. £588 is the figure I keep coming up with when I calculate

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Threelittlelambs · 24/08/2022 18:00

Are you including lunch hour in that?

monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 18:01

I don't get paid breaks as I only work 9.30-2 for two days and 9.30-2.30 one day

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AntlerRose · 24/08/2022 18:04

How many weeks do you work?

You might not earn enough to pay national insurance.

WinterSpringSummerorFall · 24/08/2022 18:04

What calculation are you doing to get 588?

monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 18:05

@WinterSpringSummerorFall £10.50 x 14 x 4 = 588

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MarshaMelrose · 24/08/2022 18:06

She's doing 10.5 x 14 x 4 = 588

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Musicalmistress · 24/08/2022 18:06

What does it show on your wage slip? Any deductions would be shown there as well as your gross pay/net pay

LionessesRules · 24/08/2022 18:06

I don't think you pay NI on those earnings.

How are you getting to 588?

I agree with Brie's calculation, but you should also be getting some holiday pay.

If you earn the 5773, and are paid 4 weekly ie 13 times a year, it comes to 441.

SteerClear · 24/08/2022 18:07

Do you have a contract - it should say what you would receive per year.
But sounds right.
10.50 x 14 x 38 = 5586
5586 / 12 = 465.5

  • 24 pension contribution = 441.50
MarshaMelrose · 24/08/2022 18:07

They be paying you by calendar month so you wouldn't be getting that anyway.
I think they've just timesed up your hours for the year and divided by 12.

monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 18:08

@Musicalmistress it just shows £24 for pension.

Is it because I am calculating 52 weeks of the year but I should only be calculating 39 as I have all the school holidays off? I assumed I got paid for 52 weeks as I'm paid year round but I think I've misunderstood? Told you I'm thick at this 🤣

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PatriciaHolm · 24/08/2022 18:09

If you are paid every month, then your wages for the year (it would seem 38, see calc below) are spread over 12 pay packets as if you worked every month and not term time only.

Your calculation - 10.50 x 14 x 4 = 588; that assumes you are paid 4 weekly not monthly, and are not going to be paid during the months you aren't at work. If you were paid like this, you would receive zero in August, for example.

If the plan is to pay you every month, and not to have a pay gap in the months you don't work, then you won't get that - you essentially get -

(10.50 x 14 x months worked) divided by 12, to give you an equal pay packet each month.

which for 38 weeks is £465.5, as above. Take away £24 for pension gives you your £441.

You don't earn enough to pay tax or NI.

WinterSpringSummerorFall · 24/08/2022 18:09

But if you get paid every month (12 months) then you need to spread some of the £588 into months which include weeks when you don't work.

You work 14 hours for 38? Weeks

14 x 38 = 538 hours
538 x 10.50 = £5649

If you are paid 12 times per year, this is £470 per month.

AntlerRose · 24/08/2022 18:09

Aah, your calculations means you'd get zero for the holidays as you are term time only. So when you do a full month your pay doesnt feel enough, then in the holidays you get the same pay even though you werent there.

You do your hourly rate, by your hours, by the number of weeks you work, divided by 12 )

Anunusualfamily · 24/08/2022 18:09

You are only working for 39 weeks a year if term time only so your pay is averaged out over the year so you get paid every month inc the school holidays

monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 18:10

Ok so the £441 sounds right with some peoples calculations. However he said he'd paid me two days holiday pay for July/august so shouldn't I have got more than £441?

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Surtsey · 24/08/2022 18:12

monicagellerbing · 24/08/2022 18:05

@WinterSpringSummerorFall £10.50 x 14 x 4 = 588

£10.50 x 14 is right so far. But they are not paying you for the actual hours worked in that month. They are paying you an equal amount each month and spreading it out.

Do £10.50 x 14, then multiply that by the number of termtime weeks in the year.

Then divide that by 12 and that will be your monthly pay.