Help me work out hourly salary from pro rata

[Whatafielddayfortheheat]

Hello, hoping someone brainier than me can help me work out the hourly rate and therefore whether my potential new salary will cover childcare.

The salary is listed as £15000 pro rata.

But the job is term time only (so only 37 weeks of the year) and it's 32.5 hours a week.

It's in a school, but not teaching.

Thanks in advance!

Minimum wage I would have thought.

Do you know what the full time weekly hours are? That makes it easier to work it out.

How many hours per week is full time?

So ifs 15,000 you are getting
15,000 / 37 weeks = 405.40 per week
405.40/ 32.5 hours = 12.47 per hour

Thanks for this however I think the £1500 is the salary if the job was full time (ie not term time) so I'll actually make less than £15000.

I suppose it would be 40?

Are you over 21? Because that doesn't make sense. Minimum wage (for 23 and over) is £9.50 an hr. Even if you assumed the 32.5 was a full time week, which is doubtful, if you x that by 52 weeks a year you get £16055.

15k / 52 weeks a year / 32.5 hrs a week = £8.87 an hr. That's not legal unless you're under 21.

That salary is disgusting!

The basic Maths

Annual Salary÷ weeks in year ÷ hours in week = hourly pay

(15,000÷52÷32.5)=

8.87 ph

Or if the hours were 40 pw
(15,000÷52÷40)=
7.21 ph

But if it is a school is the payment spreading across the 52 week year?

That's really interesting. I am very much not under 21!! I'm a mum seeking a job that fits round childcare for my preschool aged kids, as I don't want to return to my profession which isn't very child friendly.

Maybe I need to ask them directly what the salary actually means.

Thanks for your response.

Schools have 38 teaching weeks and 1 inset week. You should also get five weeks holiday and 1.6 weeks bank hols.

Thus paid 44.6 weeks per year (usually) out of 52.143.

Full time hours are 37.

So

Full time x 44.6/52.143 x 32.5/37 equals Pro rated salary.

Paid in 12 installments.

Full time at min wage is 18333.

You don't work 52 weeks a year though, a working year is 47 weeks so it might be just NMW.

I hadn't thought of that. I don't think non-teachers on staff would get the inset week paid, as they don't normally attend. But it seems I should be paid for more than just 38 weeks. Thanks.

At my school I work 39 weeks and get paid for 4 weeks holiday to be taken in school holidays and bank holidays and full time is 37 hours. Term time only works out at 85% of full time. If you are only doing 37 weeks (are you sure?) that would be a bit less.

32.5/37 = 88%

88% x 85% = 75% (roughly) 15,000 x .75 = £11,250.
32.5 x (37 + 5) (holiday pay approx) 1365 hours a year paid.

That’s £8.24 an hour which is under minimum wage.

You’ve got your numbers wrong somewhere unless the £15 is already pro-ratered?

What job is it? I’m a science tech and on spine point 6. Similar to a basic TA.

I think the £15000 is probably the salary already pro ratad (don’t think that’s actually a word 🤣) as that would be less than minimum wage for a full time job. I work as a learning assistant in a school and I get around £6800 a year for 13.75 hours (35 hours would be full time here)

Paid holidays and bank holidays paid are also pro ratered, so less than 5 weeks and all Bank hols, sadly.

I don’t think ratered is a word either! 😂

These are the current pay scales in local government that my school uses. The lowest rate is £18333k for full time.

Hmmm. So it says 'points 4 or 5 on NJC scale', I had to look that up, it's a pay scale for support staff it seems.

It's a learning assistant role.

I expect the 15k is the pro-rated salary.

Schools used to quote the full time rate (FTE) but don't now. Maybe because too many people assumed that is what you got for the reduced hours :)

Some support roles (like finance) may work inset weeks or extra time in holidays to do payroll etc.

You have all been so helpful. I'm starting to think (hope?) that the £15000 may be the salary already subjected to pro rata and therefore may be what I actually get. I will of course ask them directly to make sure. Thanks all.

The pay scales are in my photo above. 4 = £19624 5 = £19650 full time equivalent.

4 = £19264, sorry!

Yes I think you've hit the nail on the head. Thanks!

So my back of an envelop job gave you 75% of FTE, so which would be roughly £20000, which would seem to be quite close. So your £15000 is already pro rata.