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MLM Bot Watch 72 - We are watching you bots and we have the screenshots …

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YouOKHun · 19/07/2022 22:48

Eagerly awaiting the start of term at Scamversity - eek!

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Norma27 · 26/08/2022 06:37

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 06:30

Has her daughter signed up as a FBO yet?

I think she has to be 18 to sign up. I’m sure yawn always used to say that she would join as soon as 18.

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 09:36

Wonder if she signed up her son as a zombie downline

Ohnonevermind · 26/08/2022 10:37

Did someone say that Yawns roof is leaking ?

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 11:10

Oh I wouldn’t worry, no doubt she will have booked a top notch roofer to fully replace the roof asap

or she’ll send hubby up a ladder with a bucket of tar

It will be the former of course, why would a debt free multiple six figure earner not get the professionals in?

BSintolerant · 26/08/2022 11:19

Ohnonevermind · 26/08/2022 10:37

Did someone say that Yawns roof is leaking ?

Did anyone else read that as ‘foof’? 😆🙈

PieonaBarm · 26/08/2022 11:28

Ohnonevermind · 26/08/2022 10:37

Did someone say that Yawns roof is leaking ?

It's a flat roof not the thatch part, but she's had a sleepless night over it. Was on her stories a few days ago

YouOKHun · 26/08/2022 12:08

“Your supplements are on their way & they’ll help you burn fat - definitely weight training for menopausal weight gain, as it’ll really shape you and the muscles will eat all the fat up”

Yawn is definitely straying into giving advice she isn't qualified to give (just one example on her page, who knows what’s going on in the DMs). She thinks that “sharing her journey” is a good cover for all the usual MLM crimes; health claims, giving health advice to push FLP and generally misrepresenting the reality of MLM.

I placed a question in her DMs which would have raised a massive red flag with any trained PT or dietician about using C9 whilst having “a bit of a problem with food and eating”. No such concerns from Yawn “I can definitely help with that”.

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Angrymum22 · 26/08/2022 12:17

I may have just commented on Yawns latest drivel about it being fine to fail.
I am celebrating a year of shit ( I was diagnosed with breast cancer a year ago today and my DH had a stroke earlier this year) and I find I can no longer tolerate bullshit. Life is too short to keep one’s mouth shut. I am now blocking her so I no longer have to witness the drivel and lies that pour from a mouth.

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 12:22

Omg so sorry to read that @Angrymum22

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 12:23

YouOKHun · 26/08/2022 12:08

“Your supplements are on their way & they’ll help you burn fat - definitely weight training for menopausal weight gain, as it’ll really shape you and the muscles will eat all the fat up”

Yawn is definitely straying into giving advice she isn't qualified to give (just one example on her page, who knows what’s going on in the DMs). She thinks that “sharing her journey” is a good cover for all the usual MLM crimes; health claims, giving health advice to push FLP and generally misrepresenting the reality of MLM.

I placed a question in her DMs which would have raised a massive red flag with any trained PT or dietician about using C9 whilst having “a bit of a problem with food and eating”. No such concerns from Yawn “I can definitely help with that”.

I note that she’s rebranded her Insta bio and it no longer mentions business or anything - it used to say helping women to have it all or some shot like that
now it’s all about fitness and weight loss

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 12:43

Wonder if this is due to advice from her ‘coach’ that she was paying a few months ago

Angrymum22 · 26/08/2022 13:04

I plan to unblock her in 12 mnths and see if she has put the weight back on.
Crash dieting follows a cycle and very few people are capable of maintaining lost weight because they are fundamentally incapable of changing eating habits and sustaining it.
I have a number of patients who have had gastric sleeves and other types of surgery. They usually manage to loose weight but it never changes the underlying reason for over eating. Eventually they find ways around restricted eating and weight loss stops and the problem returns. Successful maintenance starts with addressing eating habits not restricting your diet.
It’s interesting that the reverse is also true. My DS18 is trying to bulk up. He is currently doing PE A level so has up to date knowledge on how best to do this.
He has radically change his diet, gone are the high carb snacks, chocolate, biscuits and daily fast foods. Now I have a fridge full of complex carbs, high protein foods and veg. He has an intake of 6k of calories a day and should be the size of a house. He weight trains but doesn’t do much aerobic fitness. He has the body of a slim Adonis. It is great that he is eating a much healthier diet but it is costing me a fortune. However he only eats when he is hungry, something that is difficult for many people. And I think that this is the key to maintaining a healthy weight. Food is a tool not a reward.
Yawn has a massive problem with self esteem, obvious from her obsessive need for validation ( selfie addict). When her business fails, and it will, she will plummet into crisis and the weight will pile on. At the moment her weight loss is feeding her narcissistic need for gratification. Once she hits her target people will stop congratulating her and she will struggle.
The one thing all these MLM “stars have in common is the absolute need for adulation. Yawn has an overwhelming case of “look at me”.

Angrymum22 · 26/08/2022 13:06

Gratification should be validation

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 14:10

You are so right about the constant need for validation
And someone who spends so much time on their hair, makeup etc and then filters the fuck out of every photo is in some sort of trouble

her self esteem is tied to the image she projects - slim, perfect appearance, wealthy and carefree

we know the reality is a bit different so I think there must be a lot of stress there, keeping up appearances.

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 14:12

@Angrymum22 I plan to unblock her in 12 mnths and see if she has put the weight back on.

you won’t be able to tell! There are photos of her from last Oct/ Nov where she looks pretty much the same as now although allegedly she was 5 stone heavier

Spongebobette · 26/08/2022 14:16

PS your point about gastric sleeves is interesting. I know someone professionally who had one in May and is documenting her ‘journey’ on Insta
She is certainly losing weight and ‘dropping dress sizes’ (hate that expression)
but she is sharing photographs of her food and it’s basically smaller portions of what she ate before - nothing green, no whole foods, little protein - all what you might call ‘treat’ foods in a healthy diet
I do wonder what will happen long term

Angrymum22 · 26/08/2022 16:03

I have more than a handful of patients who have gone the extreme fix. They assume a smaller stomach results in weight loss but if you are a grazer it makes no difference. Relationships with food are complex as we know from eating disorders. Obesity is now classified as an eating disorder. If it was as simple as Yawn suggests no one would be fat and many families would not be facing a grim winter. It costs a lot of money to maintain an obese body. Just a 100 less calories a day will result in gradual weight loss.

ticktock19 · 27/08/2022 13:40

In the past 24hrs Broke has put his caravan and more importantly his car up for sale..which will surely hinder his sales of his fuel extending dodgy tablets as I don't think he's posted his comparison results yet. Either the fuel tablets have knackered the car or perhaps he urgently needs to get cash or show that he has zero possessions

Spongebobette · 27/08/2022 17:23

I expect he’s knackered the engine p

YouOKHun · 27/08/2022 22:39

Yawn claiming to have lost two and a half stone in January (over 28 days). I hope she isn’t suggesting that is a wise rate of loss. It’s certainly not a sustainable approach physically or psychologically.

I distinctly remember January being a prime photo-shopping month and have the screen shots of the thinned down by photoshop Yawn used to sell C9 at the beginning of the year and then the full fat version of the same photo used again for a different comparison. It’s all trivial until one considers people are falling for this and then no doubt being pushed towards the “opportunity” as well, and all based on lies and half truths.

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Angrymum22 · 28/08/2022 09:55

This is exactly why I suspect she is using the weight loss injections, and then making false claims regarding FL products. She has spent the last 5yrs using FL detox boxes to kick start weight loss something has changed for it to “work” this year.

Spongebobette · 28/08/2022 11:01

hmm that would be properly fraudulent rather than the usual exaggerations

HouseofHolbein · 28/08/2022 14:18

Castle has just posted that their holiday has led them to a huge decision and they are going to get planning. Reckon whoever predicted a move to the sun was right 👍

ecosystem · 28/08/2022 16:32

Twentytwentyhindsight · 23/08/2022 16:29

Hi @ecosystem and welcome to the thread.
Over the years, many of the MLM bots whose egregious activities & lies have been exposed on these threads have put in complaints and threats leading to MN threatening to close them down if anyone's real name is mentioned.
Over time, those bots have been given various pseudonyms instead, usually linked to their claims or events occurring in their MLM careers.
Castle Bot, for example, is a (now former) Forever Living bot who was at the time identified as a useful recruitment tool for a younger 'social media savvy' audience. FL gave her a hand up the greasy pole so that she could project an enviable lifestyle, a major component of which was being able to live in a 'castle' thanks to her FLP 'earnings'. She let everyone believe she had bought the said castle (and her brother explicitly said she had) whereas it was actually a short-term rental. Hence the monicker she was given.
I am currently on holiday (thanks to having a proper J.O.B.) with limited access to internet. I'm sure other regulars and stalwarts of these threads could give you pointers an hints as to the identities of the various bots mentioned if you really need them.

Thank you. It's a fascinating thread and I understand it more now. Thank you.

YouOKHun · 28/08/2022 16:34

I am sure a move to the Sun is on the cards. Mr and Mrs F will have dazzled Castle with stories of favourable taxation for Gibraltar registered companies and the possibility to create an enhanced illusion of success with less in a sunnier climate (ask Salon who is struggling to conjure up an influencer backdrop since she swopped her Spanish life for a dingy semi in Stoke). Sling the social media engagement tools kids in a Spanish school; no school fees (if he cries every day that’s a sympathy post opportunity!) - her parents money really will go further. And when the day of reckoning comes for Scamversity all those thirty nine quids will be much harder to retrieve and F&C much harder to pursue - what’s not to like! (though the location of the deception is the U.K. so they shouldn’t get too confident about hiding in Spain).

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