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Managed Migration

14 replies

Needanewadventure2021 · 11/05/2022 21:39

Can anyone explain this to me please? I am in receipt of CTC and WTC and after benefit checks I am much worser off on UC.

I've no idea when I'm meant to be moved over but the thought of losing more money is making me feel ill. Ive lost maintenance recently due to childs dad giving up his work and going off the work radar. I also have barely any money to feed us as it is. I cant take another loss.

Will a move to UC via managed migration mean I am set to lose more money?

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MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 11/05/2022 21:42

For nearly a million people UC will mean they are paid less. Considering these people are barely making ends meet now, plus the five week delay, makes me feel that we are heading for disaster. This also doesn't take into account those that are self employed needing to post real time information. I'm helping at CAB, but I have no help to give.

MrsRobinsonsHandprints · 11/05/2022 21:43

There is a interim payment for those that will be paid less but it isn't enough

sjxoxo · 11/05/2022 21:44

I’ve got no words to sum up our current governments’ treatment of many people in our society. UC is inhumane & an absolute disgrace & I won’t be voting for them, ever.
sending you a handhold op xxx

Needanewadventure2021 · 11/05/2022 21:45

I was under the impression that managed migration meant you can't lose money when moved. I take it I'm wrong?

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Catcrazy83 · 11/05/2022 21:46

If they move you over, rather than voluntarily you should keep the same income “protected” it won’t go up every April tho, not until UC reaches the level you are receiving

SpindleInTheWind · 11/05/2022 21:47

I have read about there being a year's 'transitional protection' but I do not know enough about this, or how it will work in practice.

Needanewadventure2021 · 11/05/2022 21:48

UC has always scared me. Because it's always been very unfair with my circumstances. By the sounds of if I'm set to lose again. In which case I won't be able to cover our bills. Let alone feed, clothe, transport me and my child to work and school.
I swear I feel like life is falling apart and it's all out my control. I work full time as it is. I cant take on more hours

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Jagley · 11/05/2022 21:49

Im in the same boat, I'm scared tbh. I don't understand how this can still be going ahead. The government are failing the vulnerable as they always do. I wish I could help.

Needanewadventure2021 · 11/05/2022 22:05

I dont get it. Why are they doing this? It's not even like I've even been well off on tax credits. Never had a social life, treats or anything for myself or child. Literally live to within pounds and pence a month an now I, like many other are being financially crippled. My G&E is soon ending. Been told my new payment is tripling in line with new rates. I've literally no idea where I'm meant to find that money from. And I could be set to lose more income.

What are people meant to do. No wonder mental health is so poor.

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SpindleInTheWind · 11/05/2022 22:11

www.gov.uk/government/publications/completing-the-move-to-universal-credit/completing-the-move-to-universal-credit--2

The bit at the end is about transitional protection for 'managed migration clients'.

LilacPoppy · 13/05/2022 01:22

It’s not a year transitional protection that’s only for savings. TP lasts indefinitely but will erode our down due to no increases being made.

Babyroobs · 13/05/2022 18:08

You will get transitional protection, so won't be worse off on UC initially unless you have more than 16k savings. However as the amount of Uc gradually rises, it will erode away the transitional protection so you won't always continue to get that extra if you see what I mean. Sorry hard to explain.

Babyroobs · 13/05/2022 18:09

Needanewadventure2021 · 11/05/2022 22:05

I dont get it. Why are they doing this? It's not even like I've even been well off on tax credits. Never had a social life, treats or anything for myself or child. Literally live to within pounds and pence a month an now I, like many other are being financially crippled. My G&E is soon ending. Been told my new payment is tripling in line with new rates. I've literally no idea where I'm meant to find that money from. And I could be set to lose more income.

What are people meant to do. No wonder mental health is so poor.

As above you won't be worse off on UC. Everyone is switching eventually. It's a much easier system to administer and they want everyone on the same system for simplicity i guess, that is why they are doing it.

Babyroobs · 13/05/2022 18:13

Some parts of Uc are better for some people. If you have a young adult living with you there is no non dependent deduction on rent element until they turn 21 unlike on housing benefit where their income is counted at 18. Also on Uc you can get a carers element if you care for someone and there is no earnings limit like there is for carers allowance which can make people better off for example if you both work yet earn too much to claim carers allowance then you can still get the extra carers element which is about £165 a month extra.

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