Paying with your hand. Would you?

[Musicandcheese]

www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-61008730

I read this recently and I am curious to know how many people would do this?

For me it's a definite no. To begin with it's limited to contactless payments so you would still need a credit card for larger amounts.

I suppose it's secure, you're not likely to lose it, but I just wouldn't want to have my bank details in my hand.

And what happens when you get a different bank account, or your card expires?

I'm not having a microchip in me for any reason, but I wouldn't be adverse to paying by thumb print or similar.

No way

I just find the idea very bleurgh!! I suppose it is akin to how we microchip pets for identity, but I still wouldn't want to be carrying my bank details under my skin.

No from me.

I’d be worried that criminals will go around cutting hands off people to get hold of them etc

I think I need a bit more convincing of the benefits first.

Use a thumb print at work (canteen) but micro chip would be far too Years and Years for me (transhumanism).

Not my hand no. I have an Apple Watch and can use that so that’s enough!

I'd be up for it, just for paying though, I see what they're saying about the dangers of having all your info on an embedded chip.

I’d be worried that criminals will go around cutting hands off people to get hold of them etc

I thought that at first, and then I thought, no, because I had an image of someone shoving a stolen hand at a till in Sainsburys.

To begin with it's limited to contactless payments so you would still need a credit card for larger amounts.

But it would not be like a contactless card, more like an Apple Pay which has no limit (unless specified by retailer) because it has an extra layer of security.

Terrible idea. If it takes off on a larger scale you just know the next step will be criminal gangs working out a way to get RFID readers close enough to people's hands to skim money off them.

@Musicandcheese

I’d be worried that criminals will go around cutting hands off people to get hold of them etc

I thought that at first, and then I thought, no, because I had an image of someone shoving a stolen hand at a till in Sainsburys.

They’d dig the chip out though like they do on stolen dogs and re-implant it. I mean they probably wouldn’t but I’m not chancing it

People will not go around cutting people’s hands off. Don’t be ludicrous. ApplePay already uses that type of authentication (face recognition or thumbprint) and I’m not aware of anyone having their face sliced off to enable it.

No because I would still have to use a card or phone for points or discount, I'm not having a Tesco Clubcard, Sparks or Waitrose card chips in my hand

My A level physics teacher saud this would happen one day. I wonder if he will do it?

Yep. The 'Total Recall' remake was largely bobbins, but Kate Beckinsale's phone essentially microchips implanted in her hand? I thought - "That's the future. I'll have that." Love it.

@HopefulProcrastinator

Terrible idea. If it takes off on a larger scale you just know the next step will be criminal gangs working out a way to get RFID readers close enough to people's hands to skim money off them.

Like they can already do to phones and cards?

I think in 20 years time this will be common and the chip will contain all your personal info like medical, driving license etc as well.

What if your dog ran off with the stolen hand?

Robbers could dig the chip out if they knew where it were, there will probably be an app to detect them, it wouldn't take much to do that, like when robbers sometimes demand your pin no.

This is the exact thing I do with my hand when I pay with my Apple Watch. I see absolutely no appeal to having a chip inserted. Surely you can just buy a smart watch instead

I've seen they've mentioned people with disabilities, making it easier for them to open doors. Can't they just make a wristband with the chip inside? I worked in a building where you had these, they were waterproof and you effectively could keep them on all the time.

Like they can already do to phones and cards?

Yes, but the average hand is easier to spot and gain access to than phones or cards.

Plus there's a sizeable number of folk out there that use specific materials in bags/purses/wallets to block RFID readers so it's not as easy as being close to someone which is all you'd need to do with hand implants. It's not difficult to understand how the risk is increased.

No chance

Bit too close to mark of the beast to me

@HopefulProcrastinator

Like they can already do to phones and cards?

Yes, but the average hand is easier to spot and gain access to than phones or cards.

Plus there's a sizeable number of folk out there that use specific materials in bags/purses/wallets to block RFID readers so it's not as easy as being close to someone which is all you'd need to do with hand implants. It's not difficult to understand how the risk is increased.

My point was that they don't have to "work out how to" like you suggested at all.

I think it's a great idea and yes I would do it.

@SoupDragon oh to be so superior in the universe as you. I bow to your excessive intellect.

I know criminal gangs can already do this, my point badly made was that this change of use in technology is a gift to them. But hey, let's get caught up on my use of language instead of the point this is a terrible fucking idea.