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Relative claiming carers allowance?

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 10:38

My son gets dla, a relative was claiming carers allowance for him but since then we’ve had a falling out and I don’t speak to them at all anymore so they are obviously no longer caring for my son, I wouldn’t be surprised if they were still claiming the carers allowance though as I doubt they would have called up to cancel it, how can I find out if they are claiming and get the claim closed if they are? Last time I tried to call carers allowance they wouldn’t speak to me about the claim only the person who is claiming they will speak to, even though he is my son 😕 is there anything I can do?

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CorrBlimeyGG · 15/12/2021 10:46

Strictly speaking you're not allowed to know if 'Joe Bloggs' is claiming CA, as that is their personal data.

Assuming your child is still under 18, or you are his appointee, you should be told if there is an active CA claim related to his DLA claim.

If you still can't get that information, write to the DWP and state that 'Joe Bloggs' no longer provides any care for 'child'.

Ozanj · 15/12/2021 10:48

Report possible benefit fraud here. If she is still claiming carers allowance when they haven’t been caring for your son not only will they be taken to court but they may not be allowed to claim CA again until they pay the money back.

www.gov.uk/report-benefit-fraud

SinoohXaenaHide · 15/12/2021 10:49

You don't need to know whether or not the relative is making the (false) claim. You can inform the relevant authorities that if any such claim is received then it is false because no care is being provided.

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 10:51

They was claiming it the last we had contact but I can’t be certain they still are I just believe they may be, what happens if I report it for benefit fraud and they are not? Don’t want to cause any problems for myself

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Babyroobs · 15/12/2021 10:55

Do you claim Universal credit yourself? If so you can claim the carers element of Uc without claiming carers allowance so make a claim for that then it will flag up if someone else is already claiming.

Ozanj · 15/12/2021 10:58

@TurnUpTurnip

It is meant for suspicions. They won’t take your word for it, they will investigate.

Ozanj · 15/12/2021 10:58

*Her not you.

Oldraver · 15/12/2021 11:03

Well if you report it as fraud and they investigate, and there is no claim then it won't go any further surely

CheshireKitten123 · 15/12/2021 11:04

You need to report this OP.

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 11:07

Oh ok I wondered if they would inform them I’ve reported them? I can’t claim it myself as I already claim carers allowance for my other child

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absolutelynotfabulous · 15/12/2021 11:08

Report anonymously and the dwp should investigate.

Otherwise if you're claiming UC put in your own claim for Carer Element and that should flag up if there's a claim for CA in place.

absolutelynotfabulous · 15/12/2021 11:08

X post sorry.

Akire · 15/12/2021 11:14

It’s a very easy thing for them to check if a claim is on going. Family member claimed legally up to this point after which family circumstances meant they now do not provide care. If family member challenges if you complained say you put in a new claim for carers (or someone else in your life did) and it’s showing an active claim. Their responsibility to stop this when they are not providing the care for which they are paid.

Believing the best it could be overlooked they are still being paid and they will then have chance pay it back. They are not going turn up at arrest them.

Polmuggle · 15/12/2021 11:27

Presumably if your child needed care to the point someone was claiming carers allowance, then this care is still being done by someone else? In which case they should be claiming which might highlight a dual claim?

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 11:33

Yes by me but I can’t claim for more than one child I have 2 on dla

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 12:01

I called them they said they couldn’t tell me any information AT ALL not even if there is an active claim 🤷‍♀️ I’m not going to report them for benefit fraud as I don’t want them coming to my house so looks like there is nothing I can do...

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Ariela · 15/12/2021 12:25

You could write to tell them that as of (todays date, or any subsequent date you pick), Jo Bloggs the relative is/will be no longer providing care for your son.
Then if a claim is still ongoing it will be stopped, but if they stopped claiming when you fell out, that's fine too as they've not been claiming from then till now.

Babyroobs · 15/12/2021 12:47

You need to report it. If they are not providing the care then they are claiming fraudulently. The longer it goes on the more trouble they will be in.

saraclara · 15/12/2021 12:51

@Ariela

You could write to tell them that as of (todays date, or any subsequent date you pick), Jo Bloggs the relative is/will be no longer providing care for your son. Then if a claim is still ongoing it will be stopped, but if they stopped claiming when you fell out, that's fine too as they've not been claiming from then till now.

Any reporting will be kept confidential. They won't be told who reported them, so you don't need to worry on that score.

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 12:54

They will know it’s me, no one else knows they claim it, unfortunately they were aggressive to me the last time we had contact so I’m not willing to report as benefit fraud.

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SinoohXaenaHide · 15/12/2021 13:43

You don't have to "report it as benefit fraud" to just make a factual statement that no care is taking place. You asked in your OP if there was anything you can do. Telling the truth is all you can do. You aren't entitled to know any information that you don't already know, but you can make sure that what you do know is shared. If that information gets shared with someone who is able to check whether there is a claim for Carer's Allowance, then that person can instigate a benefit fraud case, but if they do so it will be nothing to do with you.

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 14:02

They said that’s what I should do on the phone as they said it is fraud if the person is claiming when they shouldn’t be.

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Akire · 15/12/2021 14:26

You know the family member are you 100% sure they would keep claiming? If so you have duty report change circumstances your end. They could keep claiming till their hit pension age that’s fine by you?

If anyone accused me for ending a Claim to which they did not have a right to the only answer is Yes I did. What’s their come back? It’s free money for nothing why shouldn’t I?

gunnersgold · 15/12/2021 14:28

Just go on to thr dwp website and ask . They will have to pay it back if so !

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TurnUpTurnip · 15/12/2021 14:33

@Akire

If anyone accused me for ending a Claim to which they did not have a right to the only answer is Yes I did. What’s their come back? It’s free money for nothing why shouldn’t I?

I’m not 100% sure, to give a bit more background she had just put in the claim before we had fell out so she had just applied, I don’t know what happened with it, we fell out and stopped speaking, I didn’t think about it again until I spoke to another relative who said she’s probably still claiming it, I do think it’s likely she is if the claim went through, what you described is what I would want to do, say she’s no longer caring for him and close the claim, that’s not the same as reporting someone for fraud though which is what I’ve been told to do by them. They said they can’t confirm either way and only if I think they are I should report it as fraud.

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