Meet the Other Phone. Protection built in.

Meet the Other Phone.
Protection built in.

Buy now

Please or to access all these features

Money matters

Find financial and money-saving discussions including debt and pension chat on our Money forum. If you're looking for ways to make your money to go further, sign up to our Moneysaver emails here.

Buy or lease a car?

53 replies

Boobahs · 03/11/2021 20:40

I'm toying with the idea of leasing a car in the near future as I really need to swap mine. We have approximately £4000 left on a personal loan which pays for both our cars at the moment. I could sell mine, pay off the loan and then pay the same monthly rate for the lease of a newer car.

Looking for a medium SUV such a Qashqai, Tucson, Sportage type of size. I'm not bothered about it being brand new.

Does anyone here lease a car? How do you find it? Is it a good idea?

OP posts:
WombatChocolate · 05/11/2021 08:28

Agador, yes I think lease salespeople play on worries about cars becoming less reliable.

Increasingly, people seem unable to cope with the idea of any unexpected expenditure, or anything which doesn’t come out as a certain monthly direct debit. So people worry not so much that their car might break down (and actually modern cars are very reliable) but about needing to spend any money on anything. Even the thought of £200-£300 for servicing seems to really worry some people. And cars do involve costs…they need new tyres and servicing and the replacement of certain parts, even when they continue as reliable cars.

So I’d say, if the idea of paying out £400 at some point during the year fills you with extreme worry….to the point that you will take on a financing scheme that essentially will cost you more than this over time, some work on budgeting would probably help long term. Or I guess, we can just accept that people in their bid to avoid any uncertainty will always pay through the nose.

It’s the same with lots of things. People have a dread of needing a new boiler or their pet needing vet treatment, or their washing machine needing replacing, or their pipes freezing. So they take out lots of costly policies which feel affordable on a mo they basis and give certainty, but essentially cost loads more.

It’s as if people don’t trust themselves with their own money. They don’t trust themselves to put SOME of the money they spend monthly on car payments, servicing plans, insurance policies for multiple things etc, to accumulate some money, so that when ONE of those things happen, they have some cash they can draw on. Rarely will ALL of those things need spending on, and paying up front or as and when needed is almost always cheaper. But perhaps it’s too worrying and people don’t trust themselves to budget and manage a bill. And perhaps they haven’t got any patience at all, to wait the necessary few months for savings tos cumulate for the first purchase…so they get into a cycle of leasing/monthly policies. And it absolutely is a cycle, because if you have hundreds coming out every month, to pay for the car you already have, and a service plan and a vet policy and a boiler policy and….then it’s so much harder to ever save any money. And this partly accounts for why some people genuinely have practically no savings, but somehow are driving a new car.

It really is a salesperson’s dream, that people have these fears about an expense. You only have to go into the dealership to see posters telling you have much a new exhaust or cam belt can be, but you can avoid that by paying £x per month for ever.

In my mind, lots of people having a new car every 2-3 years basically can’t afford it. They are living beyond their means. It kind of feels affordable to them, because they don’t then equate the fact they haven’t managed to save a house deposit, with the fact they are replacing a financed car every 2 years. Or oerhaos the fact that retirement will need to come 5 years later, because over 30 years, the extra expenditure on cars might amount to really massive pension contributions.

Sorry, boring I know and not in the spirit of this thread, where leading or finance is a given and people just want advice about the cheapest or best way to do it.

TiddleTaddleTat · 05/11/2021 08:52

Agree WombatChocolate I think it's a mutually socially enforced expectation to have things you can't afford. Actually it's very liberating when you stop giving a stuff what other people think! I looked at costs of leasing vs purchasing when I bought my car (3-4 yrs old at the time) and it was much much cheaper to buy. I used a hire purchase deal for a couple of months to get the best deal from the dealership then paid it off by saving. Fortunate that I had some savings put aside for that purpose.

New cars are great and all that but the thing that scares me too is driving some enormously valuable item around that doesn't belong to me. I freak about about scratches dents etc and what I would be liable for.

BertieBotts · 05/11/2021 09:04

If you plan to keep the car for over a decade then buying makes sense. If you want to change every few years then leasing can make sense, especially if you get a good deal where services are included and it's under warranty so you have no repair costs ever unless you crash (and insurance would cover that anyway). You do need good insurance that will cover you in the case of a write off.

Just depends whether you want to pay the money in lost value or to the leasing company. I don't see it as debt, it's rental.

The other reason not to lease would be if you think you might want to change the car within the term of the lease e.g. if you might get pregnant or move abroad.

New posts on this thread. Refresh page
Swipe left for the next trending thread