Brother Died, Bitcoin Access

[Imsupposedtobeworking]

My Family and I are in an awful position and hoping to find someone with experience in bitcoin. My brother had an unexpected serious brain trauma in his late thirties, rendering him completely paralysed with locked in syndrome. this left him with only the ability to move his eyes as form of communication. This happened whilst he was travelling on another continent, without adequate insurance. Many generous people and friends of my brother donated towards a fund to get him home. The donations were very generous, but not enough to pay all of my brothers bills + the cost of medically transporting him. My sibling and I ended up donating a chunk of both our individual savings and my mum remortagaged the house she had literally just paid off after decades a few months previously. Happily we managed to get him home and he spent the last three years of his life here before unexpecedly passing away this year. My Mum is over 70 and now working two night shifts a week in order to pay off this mortgage, this is not conducive to her health and my sibling and I help where we can but cant afford to pay off her mortgage. My brother had invested in bitcoins but refused to provide details in order to access this cash to help pay his medical bills / contribute towards my mums mortgage. I cannot judge my brother for this as his finances were the only part of his life that he had any autonomy over following his stroke. However, I would like my mother to no longer have to work at her age and after all she has been through with my brothers illness. He may have nothing saved in bitcoin, or he may have saved enough to help my mum pay off the mortgage she took out to get him home and also help towards his funeral costs - we just dont know. Does anyone here have insight into how a Bitcoin account can be accessed by next of kin?

Unfortunately Esme I have cause to use opsec/persec in the real world where it has a real meaning and real consequences.

Throwing niche terms in to a forum chat could give the impression someone knows what they are wittering on about.

@esme333

Moss is that you?

No, Moss is polite, and makes sense.

@titchy

OP just to note esme333 is a brand new poster. If he/she PMs you offering to help, I'd strongly suggest you ignore it.

Second this!

Bitcoin makes it interesting for inheritance tax. I mean the executors probably can't access the account or even know the value.
So how can they include it in the estate? But it could be £1m and tax due?
And then it's lost forever if they die!
I was just worried about £20 in PayPal /vouchers from cash back sites.

I was the first person to say, DO NOT DISCLOSE ANYMORE!!

Now you are clarified. Read up for reference, change topic for drama.

Pick the latter

@esme333

I was the first person to say, DO NOT DISCLOSE ANYMORE!!

Now you are clarified. Read up for reference, change topic for drama.

Pick the latter

Ooh, am I clarified?! Is that like the latest version of reading the standing orders and understanding them?

@titchy

OP just to note esme333 is a brand new poster. If he/she PMs you offering to help, I'd strongly suggest you ignore it.

Yup!

Ok.

Dont give out too much info on the thread and beware of any PMs
You need a twelve word password. And you need to know where he kept the coins.

If you know where he kept them then it helps.
If they were kept on an exchange then just contacting the exchange possibly contacting the exchange may help. And if you give them proof of death then they may pass over the coins.

If you dont have the wallet but just the 12 word passcode.
The the best thing would be to try different wallets and try the password and see if it works.

Think about the following for the passcode.

Did he have a will and there was some weird words or sentences that didnt make any sense? Could be the passcodes.

If you dont have any passcode and dont know where he kept the coins.

Then I think unfortunately the coins are lost.

@Imsupposedtobeworking

I bet you’re sorry you asked now.

Agree with souther.
This is a huge worry when something like this happens. I am so sorry for the loss of your brother OP.
Don't trust people you dont know.
It is worth trying to find out which exchange he used and you might be able to find that from his bank account or tax returns.
Something like coinbase or coinfloor, you could google other companies.
A death certificate should sufficient for you to get professional advice.
Don't give passwords or anything to randoms on the internet.

I mean advice from the exchange.

[quote SaskiaRembrandt]**@esme333

Moss is that you?

No, Moss is polite, and makes sense.[/quote]
Yoda maybe?

Not sure how esme rocking up and talking in weird riddles thinks she's being helpful. It's not clear but if you do have the passwords that's a start.

I would be furious at my brother if he was doing this.

@cocoloco987

Not sure how esme rocking up and talking in weird riddles thinks she's being helpful. It's not clear but if you do have the passwords that's a start.

My apoligies if it conveys in such a way that seems weird, however there's a need sometimes to be extra careful, and not disclose potentially damaging options someone in this forum, could utilise by doing some basics.

But another user posted an eloquent reply, so i shall take notes in my use of words on mumsnet

What i really should of said is

''Hai, download linux kali, put it on a live usb, and use the tools on there to systematically gather what is required, and there we go''

Sorry, there is also parrot, arch linux, backtrack and a few others.

But kali, the way forward to reckless retrieval of virtual property.

Research metasploit and BeeF, and you will be amazed how easy it is.

Oh, also, don't forget to download your word lists and hash'

Judt to point out he could have a hard wallet which is like a USB stick so you really need to knownwhefher its a hard wallet, digital wallet on kept on an exchange. Its more likely to be hard wallet or digital wallet as those are more secure

I don't think you can access it without a long code number.

There was a recent scam where someone was "banking" customers bitcoin. The person died on honeymoon, in India I think, and the money was inaccessible because no one had the code. Even in such a high profile case the code issue could not be circumvented.

Esme333 your broken English and cryptic speak make you sound like a scammer.

esme your posts are just word salad and sound as dodgy as hell.

Moss is that you?

:-)

The fact you ask why, demonstrates lack of understanding, otherwise the use of'why' and 'hypothetical' wouldn't be used.

The truth is, there is no spoon.

@knittingaddict

I don't think you can access it without a long code number.

There was a recent scam where someone was "banking" customers bitcoin. The person died on honeymoon, in India I think, and the money was inaccessible because no one had the code. Even in such a high profile case the code issue could not be circumvented.

There's a podcast about this, it's worth a listen.

podcasts.apple.com/gb/podcast/a-death-in-cryptoland/id1562877485