MLM Bot Watch 64: All I want for Christmas is gloop.

[acatcalledjohn]

New Fred.

@Lemming20

Is bloodsucker the one whose surname rhymes with peach and, well, sucks blood? I thought she had another name.

Didn’t realise Yawn had an upline, her own down line is so massive I assumed she was pretty high up...

Yep you’ve got bloodsucker correct.

Leach has a catchy saying

"If you do what I do, you can have the success I have" like I say. Catchy. 😭

And a lie.

It's on the end of her live from today.

@Lemming20 they’re indebted to their company. If directors fail to pay off their Directors Loan within a certain time period can cause all sorts of problems with HMRC - usually in the form of a hefty tax bill.

www.gov.uk/directors-loans/you-owe-your-company-money

There’s a very good analysis of a bot’s accounts within this article:

www.talentedladiesclub.com/articles/the-lies-and-dark-secrets-top-forever-living-managers-are-hiding/

@mermaidtales

Has anybody heard of The Freedom Movement? My colleague who has been part of some sort of travel agency MLM for years has been posting cryptic statuses and images about what looks like a new MLM called 'The Freedom Movement' I can't find out much about it and naturally all of the posts give away very little.

It’s FM (as in the cheap perfume bollocks) A quick search on FB showed the private group that is headed up by a “golden orchid”.

An up and coming bit, now balls deep in FL says

*I'm so in touch with my goals that even if I sulk about it, I'll still do the activities I need to do to get there. Being healthy is of massive importance to me, I've wasted too much of my time feeling poorly and waiting for someone else to fix it. So smart food and exercise options (adapted options often) are what I need to do.The same goals for growing my business. Most people think I'm so confident and they could never do what I do. It's not true I started 3 months after my daughter died with spiraling CPTSD and not even paying the rent. The only difference is, I don't have a choice in failing, my goals are too important to me and I really have absolutely no alternative. I can't get a normal job and if I did I wouldn't earn what I want to earn after childcare, commuting and everything else. So I do what I have to to make it work or my kids will never get to Disney and I'm just not prepared for that not to happen. Are you goals that powerful for you?? Or are you coasting through with wishful thinking that one day you'll win the lottery, get a health transplant or marry a rich guy?

😳

That is so scary to read

[quote CheekySmile]@Mankyfruitbowl I still report any MLM job postings under ‘fake job’ and then it’s asks where you had the experience and I choose ‘on the job post’.
They’re unsalaried sales reps for multi million pound companies. They’re fake jobs.[/quote]
Thanks. I've been doing this too but it seems less effective. The same old scams popping back up again and again. It's like whack a mole! Makes me angry that they are preying on people who are desperate to find any kind of work.

Jesus, so someone preyed on that poor woman when she was (and prob still is) actively grieving for her child.

Scum.

Losing a child is just about the worst thing anyone can go through, and to think there was a bot who saw an opportunity to get some CCs, it makes me feel sick.

I know. She really thinks she has a proper independent business. I wanted to cry reading that

@Bluewavescrashing, that is awful. That poor woman .

She’s going to blame herself when it doesn’t work out
She’ll think it was because she didn’t try hard enough
She’ll think she’s let her children down
😩

@BSintolerant thanks so much- that article is really good reading for anyone else a bit confused about director loan accounts. I notice Yawn is the first bot mentioned - ‘debt free’ but at best owing £66k to HMRC, at worst insolvent. Don’t know how she sleeps at night.

I think HMRC will be coming after all the tax they can in these straightened times

. and people with directors loans that they’ve been rolling over should be very worried

A BSAH rep has posted this today. It's apparently the International Day for Education. How can I help I hear you say? Can I share a post to raise awareness? Donate to a charity directly responsible for building schools in Africa or other areas in dire need? Sign a petition? Volunteer somewhere when Covid allows?

Nope, the first thing listed I can do to help is that I can buy a hand cream off of the Body Shop via her. They'll donate £1......
Then I can add a donation to my regular order.
Then I can donate to a Just Giving page set up by the bot herself for the BSAH charity Children on the Edge (it is linked to the registered charity and I'm sure that's where the money would go, however she will get the credit for being amazing raising all that money hun)
Then I can donate directly- but when I click on the link I get warned the site might be impersonating the real site to steal my personal and financial information and to click off......

I can help with the whole upline/downline situation.

Bloodsucker is pretty much everyone's upline that you mention on here.

Uber's mum was 2 down from her I think.

Then Uber, and that's where it all splits off

Yawn is in one of Uber's downline legs (after physio bot), followed by Lanza bot and BFF

Welsh bot is in another of Uber's downline legs, followed by castle

Very helpful, thanks

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Ah yes I remember that!

It’s quite instructive to go back and look at the bots who were being bigged up by uplines and on Success Days 3 or 4 of years ago. They’ve pretty much all dropped out

Oh my word, the goal board created with castle's stuff looks awful. How much is castle charging for that utter shit?

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Ah, are the top bots sending out their minions to do their dirty work for them? Sounds about right.