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DP has left. Advice on benefit entitlement please

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WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 14:48

Hello everyone
I will try and give as much information as possible. I’ve had to ask my DP to leave as he is an alcoholic and I can’t cope anymore. I am currently a second year student midwife with 2 children aged 1 and 4.
I get a student loan and the new grant totalling £16k per year. However I cannot afford to live off that with high rent and needing to run a car for placements etc.
I have looked at universal credit but it says my entitlement is 0, is this right?
I really don’t want to drop out of uni with no job to go to when if I can make ends meet for 2 years we will be financially ok once I’ve graduated.
This is all new to me and I’m trying to get my ducks in a row.

Thank you if anyone is able to advise.

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BurpingFrog · 29/08/2020 15:45

PS just seen your last post. If you are a full time student, you should only be expected to look for paid work in your summer holiday (if you get one) and SHOULD be entitled to universal credit.

AldiAisleofCrap · 29/08/2020 15:46

I agree it’s a high rent in relation to your income , it’s just UC deduct loans/grants £ for £1 inline tax credits. Also you have no work allowance. It’s not fair as you are obviously working just not for a wage.
I would claim UC and see what they say , the Facebook group Universal credit essentials is excellent , if you join they will be able to advise you better.

AldiAisleofCrap · 29/08/2020 15:46

*unlike

WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 15:46

Thank you so much Burping I had no idea about the disregard for specialist support element or the £110.
I will phone them again next week and ask about this.

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WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 15:47

I don’t get a summer holiday lol (well 2 weeks). And my placements have increased in length to make up the NMC hours losses during the pandemic when our placements were cancelled.

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BurpingFrog · 29/08/2020 15:51

Oh and also, once you have UC in place contact Healthy Start to apply for vouchers for fruit, veg and vitamins for your one year old!

BurpingFrog · 29/08/2020 15:52

Hats off to you - it sounds like you are working incredibly hard!

WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 15:59

Thank you my youngest is 2 in November so I will enquire about the 15 free hours

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DianaT1969 · 29/08/2020 16:00

Is the £16,000 a grant, or a loan that you pay back once working? If it's all a grant, is there a separate student loan that you can apply for? I know you probably would have done so by now, but just wondering if there are further loan options for mature students in vocational training?

imamum21 · 29/08/2020 16:02

have a look at universal credit essentials website, you can work out your entitlement from that, there is a facebook page which you can check if your calculations are correct, i had to help someone apply and had no idea about it and admin talked me through it. all you have to do is write down your calculation and ask someone to check it, they will want to know start and end date of your course as most students with children can and are entitled to UC although when UC are deducting student finance they do it incorrectly so the admin of the facebook page can check it for you.

www.uceplus.co.uk/

www.facebook.com/groups/UCEssentials/

WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 16:03

11k is the maintenance loan which I pay back
And this year they have brought in a 5k grant for students on health care courses which I don’t have to pay back

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WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 16:04

I will ask on the Facebook page thank you

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Graphista · 29/08/2020 16:53

While I sympathise I think you might need a bit of a reality check!

50% of my income goes on rent so I wouldn’t consider that a low rent.

How many bedrooms? Because assuming 2-3 that sounds about right for your area.

Uk average is 45-50 % of income if privately renting.

Have you checked out social housing where you are which would likely be at least a little cheaper not just in terms of rent but also utilities etc?

Your dc are young enough to share a bedroom if they don’t already and I’m fairly certain you’re only eligible for a 2 bed property or else you might be liable for bedroom tax.

Who exactly did you speak to? Because the dwp are NOT above outright lying to deter people from claiming - I’ve had it happen to me, first when I split from ex (I was told I couldn’t claim because he was army! Total bullshit) and again in the same position as you as a full time student with a child I was told I wasn’t eligible for any help - again bullshit!

I too would strongly advise you speak to uni student support finance dept - when I was a student I was able to access the hardship fund (you tend to have to get in early as this is usually finite and it’s first come first served so you might miss out this year but bear in mind for next year), books and equipment help, transport cost help and a lone parent grant.

Now admittedly that was around 15 years ago so I understand a lot has changed but it’s still worth speaking to them.

Indeed from a quick look at my old uni’s site there is additional help for students with children - childcare grant, dependents grant, parents learning allowance, clinical students can get help with transport to placement costs - these are from the govt they also say that they have a regular advice clinic for those students who may be eligible for state benefits

I would think your uni would be the same.

In addition I would strongly advise (wish I’d known this as a student) that you get advice from your welfare rights advice service who are usually part of your local council services - don’t know exactly where you are but again a quick google shows this type of service does exist in Manchester.

Are you maximising your use of student discounts/reductions? Definitely worth getting on to, are you a member of the students union? That gets you a lot of discounts/special offers and they can also provide advice and support.

I’m an ex nurse myself (wasn’t a parent at this time) and when I was studying we were also eligible for nhs discounts/offers - this WAS a long time ago but again worth exploring I think. May possibly also be worth joining an nhs based union too - you can belong to as many unions as you’re eligible for.

The calculators unfortunately can only cope with straightforward claims/circumstances and they advise of this in their “small print” and also state that they are guidance only.

would also contact CAB because they will know the complex rules around student finance and UC.

Definitely not my experience, I’ve not found cab well informed on benefits and I’ve tried several offices in several areas.

Nurse training to the best of my knowledge still doesn’t allow for a long summer break but op will know - ah and I see she’s confirmed this. As I say it’s been a while for me.

Also the free childcare hours etc weren’t there when I was a student but I got iirc 85% of costs paid by tax credits.

It is bad in that it tends to be all “dribs and drabs” so you do need to be well informed and good at creating and managing a budget that suits - eg moving any direct debits you can to points in the month when you have more income etc it’s a juggling act for definite and I definitely had very tough times but that was mainly as when I was a lone parent student child maintenance WAS included as deductible income and the system was shit as “it” assumed if my ex paid one month he’d definitely pay the next month, which he very rarely did and if he did not necessarily the full amount he was supposed to! Thankfully that aspect has now been changed to cm not being included, I wouldn’t have been loads better off if that had been the case for me but it wouldn’t have been quite so precarious!

Amass as much information/knowledge as possible and use it to maximise your income.

Also if possible reduce outgoings where you can, as pp said you’re exempt from council tax as a student and there may well be other areas you can cut back.

Are there any bills you’re paying that are for things only your ex used? Eg mobile phone, additional tv packages, subscriptions? If so get rid of these as soon as possible. If you’re tied into contracts then ideally he should be covering them but I realise this can be problematic, certainly contact the companies concerned and explain the situation they MIGHT be able to offer a reduction or payment plan.

Overhaul your regular bills to see if you can cut back on these, switch suppliers if it will save you money etc

That’s all I can think of for now, I genuinely hope it is of use to you and that you are able to continue with your studies. It’s bloody hard work doing clinical training and as I said I did it without 2 kids in tow! But there were single mums on my course plus I know some now who are doing the training and again it’s difficult but they are managing somehow, one qualified recently and seems to be doing ok.

Babyroobs · 29/08/2020 17:21

Student loan reduces UC pound for pound except for a small disregard. I would have thought you would still get some UC though. Speak to your student welfate dept.

WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 18:31

I don’t think social housing will be an option the waiting lists are very long for people adequately housed. By the time a house came available I’d most likely have graduated Grin
I only have a 2 bed house, no garden or anything fancy but it will do for now.
And I’ve cancelled anything I don’t need like Netflix etc. My car insurance is due for renewal soon so hopefully I can get a saving there. I will just have to tighten my belt and Atleast I know it won’t be forever.

I will be speaking to uni next week for sure. Thanks again everyone.

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HowDeeDooDee · 29/08/2020 18:42

Ask if you can claim any travelling costs for placements

WheresZazu · 29/08/2020 18:50

I can do will definitely be doing that.
I’m going to have a proper look into all the links etc people have mentioned now the kids are in bed. Thanks, it’s been very helpful in a stressful time.

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Happynow001 · 30/08/2020 01:46

@WheresZazu

Thank you i thought it was only the 25% discount

Also see if you can get a refund on your council tax which you've already paid, due to you being a full time student for more than one academic year.

LakieLady · 30/08/2020 11:32

I'm a benefits adviser and we shy away from giving advice to students if at all possible. It's quite specialist and we don't get enough experience at it to know every wrinkle.

We recommend students to speak to the student finance people in their college/uni as they are specialists in this area and will know all the minutiae. They will also be able to access hardship funds and charitable grants.

But yes, you will be entitled to UC in principle, although your student loan (and probably grant) will be treated as income and offset against your maximum entitlement. They disregard a standard amount for travel and books.

For a single parent with 2 children, the maximum entitlement will be around £950 a month, plus whatever the local housing allowance for a 2-bedroomed property is in your area.

When you know what you will be entitled to, it may be worth applying to your local council for a discretionary housing payment to help close the gap between the amount you get for housing and the actual rent. Councils got extra money for this because of Covid and are being unusually generous at the moment.

Good luck.

WitchesGlove · 01/09/2020 17:01

If you’ve only got one year left of your course, why not apply for an interest free credit card, just got one with a 4K limit and had 20 months interest free, only have to pay the minimum every month. You could use this for uniform, shoes and car repairs.

Most banks also do student overdrafts, where you won’t pay any interest until you graduate. Talk to your bank.

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