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Average Monthly Costs in the UK for phone, internet, utilities etc

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pinotgrigio · 26/05/2020 08:07

I'm from the UK and have been living overseas for the last 20 years. I'm planning to return soon due to Covid-19 and am currently interviewing with firms in the UK.

Can you help me with average costs so I can budget and negotiate my salary? I expect I'll end up back in Surrey, so SE England and will have DD (17) with me.

I have no credit history in the UK at all, how difficult is this going to make things like renting a house or buying a car? I did manage to set up a uk bank account from over here though and have been paying a small amount into it each month to keep it active (about GBP100).

Council Tax (assume I'll rent a small 2 bed apartment when I first arrive)
Mobile
Broadband
Weekly food shop
Gas
Electricity
Health Insurance
Contact Lenses
TV Licence
Water

Anything I'm forgetting? I assume initially I'll find a place close to work so I don't have to bother about commuting costs.

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CancH0l1day20 · 26/05/2020 11:45

www.rightmove.co.uk will show you prices to rent or buy also Zoopla

If you are renting most landlords will require a deposit of a month's rent, plus fees.

You may want to pay contents insurance

Some rentals are unfurnished with no white goods like cooker, fridge, washing machine

I would strongly recommend visiting the rental place in person, not just over the internet, because there are lots of scams

You could air b&b or hotel when you visit

BarbaraofSeville · 28/05/2020 08:26

Council Tax (assume I'll rent a small 2 bed apartment when I first arrive) - if you have an area in mind you can get costs on the council website, but it will probably be between £100 and £200 pm. If your DD is in education, you'll get 25% discount on the full cost.

Mobile - depends if you take a contract for a high end phone or buy a cheaper phone and SIM only contract. - Latest iphone is likely to be £40-60 pm or more or you can buy a decent phone for £150-200 and spend £5-10 on a SIM only contract.

Broadband - £20-50 depending on getting a deal and the speed/allowance.

Weekly food shop - depends on where you shop and what sort of food you like - £50-£150 pw.

Gas & Electricity - around £100 pm, maybe a bit less if you get a modern well insulated apartment with efficient appliances/heating

Health Insurance - no idea, most people use the NHS and only have to pay for dental treatment, but don't know if your previous overseas status affects this.

Contact Lenses -varies depending on where you get them and type, £5-50 pm?

TV Licence - only required if you watch live TV and/or use the BBC iplayer, the amount of people who don't need one is increasing. But if you do have one, its £13 ish pm.

Water - varies £15-£50 pm?

You'll also need house insurance, car insurance.

The ranges are quite wide because people's expectations vary so much, and if you shop around, you can cut costs significantly for similar products and services. Moneysavingexpert is a good website for help setting a budget and for finding deals on everything you buy.

pinotgrigio · 29/05/2020 08:05

Perfect, thank you @BarbaraofSeville and @CancH0l1day20. I'm shocked at the cost of council tax!

I'm going to head over to moneysavingexpert and get some more info and I also didn't know that about the licence fee.

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nettie434 · 29/05/2020 09:28

Agree with BarabaofSeville's estimates - very comprehensive and accurate in my experience!

Totally off topic pinotgigio but reforms to local government funding means that council tax has to cover a lot - education, social care, libraries and councils now get much less from central government than in the past. The big problem in England is that 'bands' have never been reformed since it was introduced in 1991 which has created an anomaly whereby council tax for a small flat is proportionally more than for a large detached house because the bands are based on property prices in 1991. If you had written 'I will be moving into a large house in Chelsea', you would be astonished at how small your council tax was. It's also usually paid over 10 months April-Feb so you have a two month break each year. My water bills (Thames Water) are also calculated over 8 months but that varies I think.

Lifeisabeach09 · 30/05/2020 16:47

I pay £50 pm for Bupa insurance--midlevel. Not the cheapest, not the most expensive. This is for 1 adult, 1 child. I tend to use NHS for gp services though.

You can price these up on Moneysupermarket also.

whereiscaroline · 31/05/2020 09:12

This is what I pay on a 3 bed in the Midlands.

Council Tax (assume I'll rent a small 2 bed apartment when I first arrive) £112 including single person discount. You can look on the council's website and get an idea.
Mobile £10 sim only, £30 including phone within the contract.
Broadband £30 for fast broadband
Weekly food shop - can be as cheap or expensive as you make it. Bottom end I'd say £30 per adult per week.
Gas - £38 pcm
Electricity - £30 pcm
Health Insurance - n/a for me
Contact Lenses - n/a for me
TV Licence - £40 per quarter
Water - £29 per month

exexpat · 31/05/2020 09:35

About the returning from abroad without a UK credit history: I did that about 14 years ago, and there were issues. I had also kept a UK bank account, which helped a bit, but not with everything.

I had to get my parents to guarantee my rental contract - you may not need a guarantor if you have a confirmed job to come back to, but you might be asked for a higher than usual deposit or rent in advance.

I had trouble with little things due to the lack of credit history (was turned down for a £10 a month phone contract!) but weirdly was offered finance when I bought a car, so took a loan for about half the car's value just to start building up my credit score again. My car insurance was really high for the first few years as I had no insurance history in the UK.

pinotgrigio · 31/05/2020 15:28

Thank you all for this extra information. @exexpat do you think it will help that I own a house in the UK? I share ownership with my mum and we own it outright. It's only a tiny one though, that we rent out. I've got a bank account that's around 8 months old, that has GBP100 paid in each month and a UK drivers licence.

Interesting about the car loan - I actually found that while I couldn't get a car loan in Australia as a non-resident, I could get car finance without too much hassle - generally as it would be $$$$ and the car would be collateral. I don't think I want to go down that route again though, it's very expensive. We have good options for car sharing here, with hourly car rentals on cars just parked in streets nearby but I don't think that is yet widespread at home outside central London.

So much has changed in England since I left and it's very strange to be a foreigner in your own country.

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mencken · 31/05/2020 16:51

came back a decade ago and some things are still weird!

for renting, read the link below to get clued up on English tenant rights. Lots of misinformation around and while most landlords do it properly, the dodgy ones prey on the clueless. BTW most fees to tenants have now been outlawed, and deposits are now capped at five weeks rent. Section 21 (the 'no fault eviction' - actually the only way to get a tenant out) is going to be outlawed soon in England and landlords will get very choosy. Your positives are you are an adult who has run a home, you don't smoke (I hope) and you've no pets, plus a job which means that the rent is no more than 40% of your takehome.

Don't rent a shithole expecting it to get better, and especially not an expensive shithole - happens a lot on here. There's no need. A landlord who doesn't do all the checks is one you don't want to be renting from.

www.gov.uk/government/publications/how-to-rent/how-to-rent-the-checklist-for-renting-in-england

car finance is a very expensive way of doing it. Plenty of decent 8-10 year old cars around. You will have an insurance issue with no no-claims; if by any chance you've been a named driver on someone else's policy, that can help. Otherwise you are looking at ££££. Don't forget breakdown cover; I use Start Rescue who provide the full works for around £60 a year.

broadband should be around £20 a month at most, I'm paying £25 including unlimited landline calls.

contact lenses; get a checkup and a prescription, then buy from one of the online services. This will piss off your optician so be discreet. Feelgood contacts are one I use, there are others.

dentistry ; good luck finding an NHS dentist even when they do reopen. Expect to go private.

gas and electric; you take over the supplier 'in situ' when you move into a property. You then use one of the comparison sites to get quotes for alternatives. The official model compares with the expensive standard tariffs, best bet is to look at actual unit costs and standing charges and then get a fix. At the moment gas should be 2.5p to 3p a unit, electricity 12-18p a unit and standing charges for each about 20p a day. (as you may be able to tell, I've been reviewing my costs recently!) The ridiculous smart meter programme is currently stalled due to Covid-19. Many smart meters go dumb when you switch supplier, although it isn't a big deal to give readings.

yes you will need contents insurance; it isn't expensive. Again, use a comparison site.

finally, if you haven't been back in a while you will find the crowding and traffic in Surrey terrifying. Be warned!

exexpat · 01/06/2020 10:24

I expect owning a property here should help to some extent - we'd sold our old flat in London a few years earlier so I didn't have that to add to my profile.

What I found was that I got a lot of 'computer says no' so I had to explain my situation to an actual person. I ended up having to get car insurance through an independent broker, for example, as the online comparison sites refused to give quotes.

pinotgrigio · 01/06/2020 12:54

@mencken thank you, that’s really useful. While I do rent out a house, mum deals with it all as she’s in the UK, so some (most) of the details I’m not fully across. It sounds as if the UK is actually slightly better with regards to tenants rights than Australia, it’s absolutely feral here and tenants don’t have much protection at all.

@exexpat that’s also interesting to know and makes absolute sense.

The advice here has been so helpful, I think I’m getting there. I’m at final stages of interview with two firms, have got quotes for shipping, found a few schools with places for 6th form and have just requested quotes for getting the cats back home.

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mencken · 01/06/2020 13:09

tenants have a lot more protection in the various parts of the UK than the Guardian, Shelter and MN would have you believe - there's a lot of propaganda about 'landlords evicting on a whim'. That hasn't been legal for decades. Peter Rachmann (also dead for decades) casts a long shadow.

shipping cats; I think you'll find it cheaper to send them business class on the plane... :-)

exexpat · 01/06/2020 16:29

As far as car insurance goes, I am not sure how it works in Australia, but it could be worth trying to get some kind of no-claims certificate, which may or may not be accepted by a UK insurer. I had been living in Japan and didn't have a car most of the time there, and of course all documentation was in Japanese, but moving from an English-speaking country you might be able to get some credit for your driving history there.

There are car clubs in the UK, but most in very densely populated areas, so whether you have easy access to one will depend on where you move to.

Good luck with the job interviews!

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