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When Child Related Benefits Stop

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MysticMeghan · 24/05/2020 14:37

I found it quite hard when DD went to Uni at 17. The child benefit stopped in the summer when she left school, and I had to make up the shortfall on her rent for her student flat from savings as she only qualified for the basic student loan and not the bursary, which is parental means tested with quite a low threshold, which means you basically get nothing if one parent is working. I remember the old days when a student grant did at least cover your accommodation costs. But it's unrealistic to expect everything to be free. And it's not until a benefit stops your realise how much you miss it!

Our neighbours don't work and get the full range of benefits but this includes quite a large wedge of child benefit and child tax credit which I now know (from what my neighbour has since told me) that they rely on quite heavily. When I mentioned to my neighbour before lockdown that she will probably miss the child related benefits when her twin boys turn 16, she looked at me like I was mad and told me that they can't stop because she needs them to get by. I was a bit embarrassed and thought that maybe this was because her kids had found a college or training place or something (I think you can get them until 19 or 20 in some circumstances) or because they would be claiming benefits in their own right. Both boys have already left school. So I let it drop and with everything that has happened I forgot about it.

This morning she told me through the fence that she has had a letter from DWP saying that her CB and CTT benefits are going to be stopping and she doesn't know how she is going to get by. Apparently she and DH get jobseekers allowance, housing benefit and council tax paid under the umbrella of UC. And I am presuming that her boys will now be able to claim benefits in their own right which would help make up some of the shortfall.

I know that really this is none of my business but she was crying and saying they have just signed a new contract with virgin media and how will they pay the electric bill now. I suggested that she go online and try and get some advice because I don't really know enough to advise her. It's my own fault for mentioning it all those months ago I suppose.

She clearly needs to talk to someone so I am happy to be a listening ear at a socially appropriate distance if there is no-one else but I am a bit useless when it comes to giving any advice because I really don't have much experience as I been in the same job since I was 24.

To be frank I am a bit shocked that she seemed to think that she would continue to get these benefits forever and it wasn't until she told me how much CTT she gets each month that I realised that it is a large chunk of their income gone which they have presumably come to rely on.

As I said, if anyone knows of any online help that is available right now then I will pass the information on (I can text her) but I am a bit shocked that she didn't anticipate this as even with my fairly basic knowledge I knew that the CB wasn't going to continue forever and accepted and planned for that.

Presumably the way forward is to try and look for work as even on a basic wage you could then claim WTT. But I appreciate that in the current environment that isn't going to be easy.

Clearly people rely quite heavily on child related benefits more than I ever realised.

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EinsteinaGogo · 25/05/2020 18:14

There you go, OP. Bitterness & benefits bashing masquerading as concern.Thanks for making it super-clear.

Instead of starting a thread along the lines of 'oh dear, how can I help', you should have just owned it and said 'this drives me insane'.

DuchessOfBeddington · 25/05/2020 18:26

I feel the same way EinsteinaGogo OP is not concerned at all about her Neighbour.

I don’t think it’s nice to go around eavesdropping on her private phone call, then coming on here to moan about it.

EinsteinaGogo · 25/05/2020 18:43

Glad it's not just me, @DuchessOfBeddington.

I really hate it when other posters get drawn in to sharing their experiences under false pretences.

Sargass0 · 25/05/2020 19:50

EinsteinaGogo

It's not even thinly veiled!

OP- concern - my arse.

MysticMeghan · 25/05/2020 20:32

I admitted to the eavesdropping. It wasn't my finest hour. But she'd been crying earlier and it happened after I had already started the thread. So making out I started a thread specifically to moan about something I overheard whilst eavesdropping is a bit disingenuous.

I don't think that very many people shared very much on here at all. One person mentioned possible plans for alternative income once their CTT for their two youngest comes to an end which seemed sane and sensible but didn't go into any details. I also made various economies myself when I knew CB was ending. Implying that I started the thread to harvest people's personal experiences is just VILE. It didn't happen. And if that WAS the case I imagine MN would have shut this thread down long before now.

Yes, I did moan a bit about the phone call but it was HER choice to go into the garden to phone her Mum, if she wanted it to be private she could have gone indoors. But I have a sneaking suspicion she WANTS people to know how hard done by she is. It was a warm day and we had to shut the kitchen window and shove the radio on to escape it. We're terraced housing. It's cheek by jowl here.

Since she told me about the letter every time I go outdoors she calls me over for an update. I've become her confessional. And yes, I admit that my initial sympathy for her HAS begun to evaporate. My original plan was to text her online links so she could get some professional help with her money problems. But I don't think she's actually done anything with the links I've sent her. Anytime I try and ask she launches into her diatribe about how she's being victimised by the system and being plunged into poverty.

I work very long hours solving technical problems over the phone. It's quite draining. When I finish I like to pop out for a walk to clear my head but I'm getting ambushed time after time and then when I finally DO get to the park it's getting cold and I just seem to be running over everything she's said in my head trying to make sense of it. I feel sometimes like it's impossible to switch off.

Writing it down helps a bit. I feel like I've offloaded a bit of the burden and freed up some space in my head. But I see now that it was a terrible mistake. Because MN ISN'T for people to offload and vent unless they are part of an exclusive clique. It's actually for people to take pleasure in pointing out your failings and exposing faults which you've already admitted to.

I really want her to work out her problems but my sympathy is beginning to fade and it's mainly because she won't man up and take responsibility for digging herself out of this.

Thanks for making me realise that MY mental health is nobody's concern but mine. Hundreds of people come on MN every day to moan, to vent or to to express an opinion. Sometimes about quite trivial things. That's ok. It's allowed. Thanks for making me realise that I am actually part of an inferior caste of people who AREN'T allowed to do this. Thanks to you guys, next time I have a problem, I'll just endlessly internalise it and pop a few pills instead.

And apologies to anyone on benefits who felt personally slighted by anything I said. That wasn't my intention. But I quite understand if you choose not to believe me. But I'm really past caring anymore.

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EinsteinaGogo · 25/05/2020 21:02

Your problem is actually quite different, OP. You should post in Chat for advice on how to extract yourself from someone who's draining you.

DuchessOfBeddington · 26/05/2020 02:26

Quite right, she should like a bloody nightmare if she’s accosting you every time you leave the house.

PorpentiaScamander · 26/05/2020 02:35

Ive just re read this thread and something doesnt make sense...

OP you say your neighbour told you her CTT is stopping ( I assume you mean child tax credit?) But she also told you they get UC? Surely they can't be claiming both. Its either/or?

Gingerkittykat · 26/05/2020 03:28

I was also going to say the same, you can't claim both UC and child tax credits at the same time so wondering if this is just a sneery post. It also doesn't make sense that the benefits have stopped now since the school term has not ended and they would get it till the end of August anyway.

The kids need to sign up to [[https://www.gingerbread.org.uk/information/benefits-tax-credits-and-universal-credit/money-when-your-child-turns-16/ the careers office] to get an extension of child benefit. The boys will need to take a training place, work placement or go into education. They cannot claim UC in their own right till they are 18.

It's actually for people to take pleasure in pointing out your failings and exposing faults which you've already admitted to

It's fine for you to point out your neighbour's failings and faults though!

VEGAS2016 · 26/05/2020 19:05

Completely agree! Concern?? Yea right!

& now youre covering it over with 'issues ita causing my mental health' Hmm

Shinesweetfreedom · 26/05/2020 20:02

I would try and extract yourself out of this,it will be advice now,but she will be on the cadge next.

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