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Should I ask the CMS to do a calculation?

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Moomin8 · 02/04/2020 21:33

Baby is 4 months old. Her father and I like each other but have acknowledged that we aren't going to be able to live together. And we probably won't be together forever.

Dp has a good salary afaik but I don't know how much he earns.

So he told me he used the government website to work out how much maintenance he should pay and that it says £350 a month for dd. Ok, I said. He then asked if I would be ok if he opened an account for dd and put in £50 from my £350, plus another £50 of his own. Again I was ok with this.

So he paid me £300 twice and now has cut the amount to £150 because, he says he didn't get as much commission last month. BUT he told me recently that he'd been spending £200 a week on food and groceries to stockpile because of this coronavirus. There is no sign of the proposed bank account for dd. Apart from this money he doesn't buy anything else except the odd tin of formula.

Our baby grows very fast and I have to keep buying her new clothes and she has now also grown out of her crib. I'm on maternity allowance and I'm pretty sure his standard of living is better than mine.

He told me that he would be really angry if I ever asked the CMS to calculate what he should pay. But what they calculate is a minimum amount and it's not unfair.

OTOH I can't cope with him exploding at me. My mum says I should definitely go to the CMS because he'll always put himself first.

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EL8888 · 04/04/2020 20:28

Another vote for CMS

unicornsarereal72 · 05/04/2020 11:17

I know how difficult this situation is. You want a quiet life and no conflict. So I would give him one more opportunity. You agreed £350 per a month and you will manage savings for your dd. If he pays less the following month. You will start the process with the cms.

He doesn't want to be told what to pay and when. As that doesn't give him the flexibility he has now. Don't let him mess you about. You have 18 more years of this.

Once it is done. He will get angry. Just grey rock him. This is about your daughters welfare and being able to provide her with all she needs.

My ex was the same. Messed me about for six months. Then stopped paying completely. That's fine the arrears are mounting up. And they will catch up with him eventually.

RandomMess · 05/04/2020 12:02

Arrears only start from the day you register the claim with CMS.

I would ask for weekly payments so as soon as he defaults you ring CMS rather than already being a month out of pocket.

LittleLittleLittle · 05/04/2020 12:05

OP you do know second hand baby stuff can cost very little or nothing?

ivegotthisyeah · 05/04/2020 12:12

I have just started a cms claim
Finally after been financially controlled by by ex who has now suddenly reduced my agreed between us maintenance by £200 claiming I am spending it on myself ( I never do that i work) and that he will put what he not paying me in a trust fund for the three children! He won't do this either he is full of shit! On lock down when the children are with me 24/7 and constantly eating he does this so disgusting.
I'm fuming but had a sense of relief that I started my cms case as it's one less thing for his to control me by.
I just hope the calculator is correct

Moomin8 · 05/04/2020 13:28

OP you do know second hand baby stuff can cost very little or nothing?

What does that have to do with how much CM someone pays?

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Moomin8 · 05/04/2020 13:38

@ivegotthisyeah I'm sorry you've had a similar situation.

A lot of non resident parents do seem to really resent paying CM and try to come up with reasons why they shouldn't have to.

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RandomMess · 05/04/2020 13:41

I think the poster was concerned you would be fobbed up with being bought a cot rather than you rightfully being given the money so you could decide what and how to spend on your child and yourself.

LittleLittleLittle · 05/04/2020 15:52

@RandomMess yep that was my point.

Second hand baby stuff doesn't hold it's value. That's why loads of people happily will give you their baby stuff if they have finished having children (or planning on having a large age gap).

So the baby's father offering you a cot is being CF by doing so as he likely got given the cot for free.

Moomin8 · 05/04/2020 17:06

@LittleLittleLittle well I think he's genuine about the cot because he sent me some links to pages with cots and he asked me to choose which one I want and then said he'd order it. 🤷🏻‍♀️

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RandomMess · 05/04/2020 17:15

But you could have the cash and buy a cot of your complete choice...

He will carry on like this, will only buy things for the baby as and when suits him and eventually you will need to go to CMS anyway!

LittleLittleLittle · 05/04/2020 17:16

The cot and any other equipment he buys is in addition to the maintenance payments. He doesn't get out of paying you maintenance by buying stuff for the baby.

(It's unfortunate we are in lockdown as there are other places you could get stuff for your daughter and as I said other people would just give you their baby stuff or even buy you stuff.)

Anyway just do what PPs have suggested and ensure he pays maintenance.

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