MLM Bot watch 57- where the bizniss 'owners' are their own best customers.

[Bluewavescrashing]

Time for a new Fred, huns. We watch bots (people who have signed up to multi level marketing schemes which are thinly veiled pyramid schemes). We expose their lies, in the hope that fewer vulnerable people will be sucked in to buying a fake business. This is not trolling. It's calling them out on their fakery. Welcome, huns.

They can terminate you, change policies without your input and restrict your activities, but you’re totally a #bossbabe.

Some non competition restrictions in contracts between peopole who are not employees and those who pay them are reasonable and valid under English law. it is a bit of a muyth that they are all void. I put one in a contract yesterday. it will depend on the case. That alone does not make someone an employee but I agree it is a piece of evidence that might help to tip the balance in some cases.

IR35 and the new rules under it in force in April does not apply to sole traders like I am but instead to limited companies so again it will depend. If I do work for anyone IR35 does not apply and the usual test of whether I am an employee or not is used (I am not anyone's employees and nor would a local plumber who goes out to different customers every day etc). If instead I or the plumber had our own limited company then IR35 would apply and have implications including a burden of proof from April in large customers having to risk paying employer NI if they are really taking the company/person on in an employee type relationship.

It definitely would @fromdownwest
It would surely have nmw/ holiday pay implications too.

That's correct @Xenia.
The usual test for restraint of trade is for 'reasonableness'. Blanket restrictions almost automatically fall foul of this.

Most bots are sole traders (if they even bother to register), so the implications are more in terms of whether they fall under IR 35, rather than an unfair restriction of trade as such.

The more senior bots have set up limited companies to handle their biznis, but I believe any contract with FLP is between the bot as an individual 'distributor/FBO' rather than as a representative of the company- can anyone confirm how this works?

I’ve just caught up on Homeschool’s live, very interesting. She’s wasted no time creating the page and header for The Next Generation Live, which sounds like a 90s boy band comeback tour.

That joint with her husband was painful, just over talking and awkward silences ... tres odd

Meanwhile, Iron Bot is in a Turkish hospital with her daughter as she recovers from her surgery, yet is still plugging JP products in her pockets of time. Were she still working for the evil corporation that we once worked at together she would have been given time off with full pay.

Companies House just alerted me - one of our favourite Bot’s accounts have just been published.

IR 35 does not apply to sole traders.However the existing law on who is an empoloyee and who is not which has been around for at least 50 years does apply and will determine if someone self employed is an employee or not.

I don't understand companies house but it definitely looks like yawn didn't make much money last year and owes a hell of a lot, more in 2019 than she did in 2018..,

Yawn’s Director’s Loan (all £205,180 of it) is interest free with no fixed terms of repayment. There will be a big fat tax bill to pay on it though.

It doesn't look good to me but I'm not great with numbers.

£205k loan is an ouch.

Nurse has an exciting announcement to make later, the tease

I suspect she’s signed someone up 😩

Ooh Yawn has called out Homeschool with a "wanker move" comment on her status. It appears Homeschool has replied to a message from one of Yawn's "stars" (think bad jeans at success day) with a cryptic comment about leaving FL and "find out what's next". Yawn's bot messaged Homeschool for help with FL in April and she never replied then.......

So did Yawn lose £30k+ last year AND took out an extra 20k on the directors loan?

Screenshot please!

Accounts:

On homeschools page as a comment to homeschools smiling status update bio thing.

Yawn has provided a screenshot.

Yawn is showing how classy she isn't. I wonder how many of Yawns team homeschool will poach. Likely quite a few who aren't earning with FLP so want to try a new business.

True professionalism right there with that comment! Stay classy!

Please could somebody spell out those accounts? What is her annual salary? Thanks

My guess is her annual income, after expenses, starts with a -

At this point she is likely paying out more than she is earning. Those dog pushchairs are only £40, yet she had to borrow one. A friend got one for her dog who can't walk well, next day amazon delivery.

Really? I didn't think it was that bad 😬

I'd hazard a guess that Homeschool has jumped to Rasherbot's new venture if she's off poaching Yawn's downline.
Just had a look at Mr Homeschool. He's a terrifying hybrid of suicide cult leader and one of Rod, Jane and Freddie.

@dickiedavisthunderthighs

Spot on!!!!

@YouokHun thanks but I meant a screenshot of the comments 🤣