Term time only - explained?!

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I have applied for a lunchtime supervisor job, I been offered a interview this coming Wednesday! - I'm just a little confused about the whole pro rota, term time only and holiday entiltelment.

Can anyone shed some light on this, much appreciated!!

SCP 4 £18,426 pro rota to hours worked (£4,844.91 per annum) term time only (39 weeks) 11:30am to 1:30pm each day Monday to Friday.

Cheers.

Holiday pay might already be worked into your annual salary so you might want to ask about that. Similarly to teachers/school staff, you might not be allowed any holidays in term time unless it’s compassionate leave or some other circumstances.

£403.74 a month every month. Probably no holidays, well the holidays will be the 14 weeks off a year. I would say that's quite good for 10 hours a week. It works out around £12.75 an hour

JenniferM1989

How did you work it out?
Thanks x

£4,844.91 ÷ 12 = £403.74. That's your wage each month. You won't earn enough to pay any tax or NI and you won't auto enroll into a pension scheme as you won't earn enough but you can go into one if you want (usually 3-5% of your wage).

What they have likely done is calculated pay for 5.6 weeks holidays a year into your salary then obviously you're off the 12/13 weeks a year that the kids are off.

If you take your salary of £4,844.91 and divide it by 39 (the number of weeks you work a year) then divide it by 10 (the number of hours you work a week) you get the hourly rate of £12.42. I don't know why I said £12.75 before, tiredness probably! But you will have paid holidays integrated into your salary so your hourly rate would more likely be around £9-£10 an hour

£4884.91 per annum divided by 39 (weeks), then divided by 10 (hours) gives you £12.42 per hour worked, including holiday pay.

This may be paid during term times only or may be split so you get equal monthly pay £407 per month for all 12 months

sorry £403.74

Is that right though? A band 5 nurse on entry level salary and 37 hour week gets 12.58 an hour including holidays then tax, pension and NI taken off.

PlumGalore, are you just surprised that a lunchtime supervisor gets a similar hourly rate to a nurse? The calculation is accurate. It’s only 2h a day so a little extra per h is expected. I’d also say it’s about the same as cleaners get paid in London.

Its standard in education type roles that are term time only for them to tell you both the annual salary and what you actually earn - as rather than working 52 weeks pa you are only working term time. As an example my salary is 32k ish pa but I work 3 days a week so my actual salary is 19k pa ish.

£12.42 per hour seems quite high. That’s more than I get and I’m two grades above our midday supervisors!

Ours are on a start of £11.10 going up to a max of £11.40 per hour.

Exactly how the maths works depends on what number of hours per week they consider to be "Full Time", and whether you are actually allowed to take any term time holiday (usually not in schools)

If a "Full Time" week is assumed to be 35 hours then I would calculate pro-rata for a 39-week working year and 10-hour working week to be only £4,424.96 assuming all holiday entitlement is to be taken during school holidays. However, as they would be paying you £400ish more than this, clearly one or both of those assumptions is wrong. Or they did their maths wrong of course.

JenniferM1989
Thanks you so much for taking the time to explain that for me!!

Thanks everyone for your replies. Xx

I think it means £4844 if you were working 52 weeks a year but you won’t you will be working 39 weeks so pay will be just over £300 per month for 12 months if the year.

That seems high, I get £8 something an hour and do 1hr 20 a day.
Basically you divide the annual wage by 12 as you get paid monthly including August.

I love it, good luck.

Also meant to say no holidays outside of school hols. I get £175 a month after pension deductions.

Thankfully I have a much better paid work from home job that fits around it!

I'm part time term time only. I work 29 weeks but get paid for 32.4 weeks as that includes the pro-rata holiday entitlement. So the hourly rate is lower that that which has been said above as they will have included statutory holiday pay in your pay.

However I would say nearly £18.5k pro rata is really good for a lunchtime supervisor, however exactly they work out the pro-rata.

And no you wont automatically get put in a pension scheme but if you can afford to pay it you might want to consider it as it will probably be the local government scheme which is pretty good and portable if you later get another job in a school/local authority or some other state funded institutions. (Im in a university and pay into LGPS)

If it’s a local authority school or an academy you will automatically be put in the Local Government Pension Scheme, but you can opt out if you want. If it’s an independent/private school it will depend what pension scheme/arrangement it uses whether you will be automatically entered or not.

£18500, divided by a 52 week working year (paid holidays), divided by a 38 hr working week gives £9.36 hourly wage.
So, I suspect the £4844 is a job that doesn't have the school holidays.
You will either earn 39/52 of that, or a bit more if holiday pay isnt yet included.

Thanks everyone for your replies! X

Apparently every term time worker gets the equivalent of 5.6 weeks holiday added on to their salary as this is the statutory minimum amount

I do this and love it. I work Tue - fri and I get insert days off and all of the school hood. It’s a really flexible job and they are really good if your kids are off I’ll etc and you need to stay at home with them