UC and non dependents?

[tomatosoup4]

Can anyone help me please.
I claim universal credit for myself and 4 dependents. My eldest who is 17 has just started a job in retail and I'm not sure if I need to phone UC and let them know, I can't find any information online to wether I need to or not? I read somewhere that non dependents under 18 and working don't need to contribute to the house but I'm not sure that is true, I've tried putting all my details in the entitled website but it's asking how many non dependent adults well she's not an adult as she's only 17 what should I do anyone have any idea? Thanks

You can just ask them on your UC page.

Either in the message area or the change in circumstance page.

Yes you need to let them know. As she is under 21 she won't be expected to contribute as a non dependent but you may be getting a child element for her which won't apply if she's no longer in education.

@MiniMum97 I only get the child element for 4 kids there's no mention of her it's just says me and the for kids.

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So you have five kids? And four are counted but she doesn't feature anywhere?

www.entitledto.co.uk/help/16-19-year-olds-in-education-or-training-Universal-Credit

Does this help?

@Noeuf yes 5 children but because she isn't in education or approved training she's down as an "other" person who lives with me. She'll be classed as a non dependent when she's 18 I think. It's says nothing about a 17 year old that just works so I can't get a clear answer of if I need to tell them or not. She's only a Xmas temp but has done a lot of overtime, she should take home just under a £1000 when she's paid at the end of the month.

Thanks I thought that but wanted to check. So she would go down as another adult on the form but is she not in approved x,y,z in term time?

I think you should not tell them anything then - it doesn't seem like a change if she is already down as another non dependent and she isn't 21

There is no deduction for a non dependent if they are under 21.

Her earnings are irrelevant.

The child element would have stopped when she left education.

@MiniMum97 so her working won't affect how much I'm paid? I though she might be classed as another adult in the house and if she earns money is deducted from me? Or have I got that wrong? It's so confusing

I only started my claim in aug and I'm clueless about all this. She's 18 in jan.

As she is under 21 there will be no non dependent deduction on your rent element. Once she turns 21 you would lose about £73 ( I think) from your rent element if she's still living with you. So at the moment her earnings will not affect your UC.

The only way it will affect you is with your council tax reduction as she would be classed as a non dependent for that so you would lose your 25% single occupancy discount. I'm not sure whether this would take effect now though or when she is 18 but you should report that she is working. UC will not be affected at all.

Council tax is 18 and over

Thanks everyone for your help

Was 18 with HB but 21 UC council tax support in addition to single person deduction is 18.

Do you not live in England op?

@MyDcAreMarvel yes.

@tomatosoup4 - her earnings are not considered when working out your entitlement - only your partner's income is counted, not every adult in the house.

If you live in England your dd has to be in education/training she is not legally allowed to just be in employment.

That's pretty meaningless though. The reality is it's generalised not individualised. No one is held to account except via stats.

They doesn’t make it ok, the law is there to protect young people.