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MLM Bot Watch 53: The saga continues...

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GoldenKelpie · 28/08/2019 08:00

Starting a new thread on all things MLM!

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Allmyarseandpeggymartin · 10/09/2019 17:14

Now we’ve got your attention with your naff as fuck wag car Yawn, what we would really like to see if your accounts.

Prove to us that you earned that car through Forever.

Whiterangey · 10/09/2019 17:54

I'm on a roll today, I think or say it and the universe delivers!

The anti-mlm coalition on facebook just shared this:

stayonthelevel.com/2019/07/08/changes-to-advocare/

Whiterangey · 10/09/2019 18:07

I can confirm that my username is a piss take because bots always dream of having a white range rover and it's the stereotypical bot car which appears on dream boards everywhere.

What else would it be?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/09/2019 18:57

So basically, the Federal Trade Commission has determined that Advocare's compensation plan made it a pyramid scheme, and told them to stop being an MLM or else...

I can't see them lasting any length of time as a 'traditional' business, as their products are generic, overpriced and non-competitive. Without the bots buying in to qualify for the compensation plan, their sales will drop to virtually zero. Tough for the top bots who were raking it in, but it will save the other 97-odd % from losing (more) money.

The other thing that is worth noting is that Advocare's compensation plan was not particularly egregious for an MLM. The main difference is that they were taken to court by former distributors. Every single MLM out there would also fall foul of the FTC if it was subjected to serious scrutiny.

With any luck, this outcome will have the regulators paying a bit more attention to the others. Rex & co will not be enjoying this.

Spongebobette · 10/09/2019 19:02

I hate to be judgey but white range rovers are really naff.
The poor person’s idea of a rich person’s car.

Cacacoisfarraige · 10/09/2019 19:30

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Whiterangey · 10/09/2019 20:02

I think the issue with Yawns car is she is using it as attraction marketing. It's on a lease and they will be paying a lot for it.

Her downline won't ever be able to get one through forever earnings as they earn nothing. The car plan has to be earned each month or the car paid for.

If there was an inheritance and that helped with the car then she is lying as to how they got it.

It's all smoke and mirrors. We have seen the FLP accounts, we know recruitment is suffering. We know new recruitment is how they make their money, we're know about the insolvencies. We can set their accounts.

We know a number of top forever bots will end up losing everything based on the decline in the industry.

The top Younique presenter in the UK isn't earning a fortune.

Parading a new car on facebook will not change a thing, a Gucci belt won't change a thing. The mlm industry is on the down slide.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 10/09/2019 20:18

I’d seen a tummy tuck on her dream board but not a white Range Rover

You can't lease a tummy tuck 😂

Whiterangey · 10/09/2019 21:10

@Twentytwentyhindsight This is it, they are all mostly the same. It's all about the recruitment and not about the sales.

Given the stats they should all be illegal. I would like to see that happen in the UK. How can scheme where over 99% of participants don't make any money and most lose money be legal?

The UK is behind in things like that. With Ponzi schemes they don't really seem that bothered. There are some huge netwinners from scams such as Traffic Monsoon and USI Tech living in the UK. The SEC have gone after them through the civil courts, but other than that they keep doing the same thing.

Cryptoponzi's are huge. We've seen wig and sleaze promote a few, the one's they have promoted are just the tip of the iceberg. The ones that set up the Ponzi's are obviously doing wrong and scamming people, but so are the 'big leaders'. Wig and Sleaze know what they are doing, they know what they are joining are Ponzi's, they just keep hoping to be high enough to make a fortune.

There needs to be legislation that is enforced.

Cacacoisfarraige · 10/09/2019 21:25

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RogueApostrophe · 10/09/2019 22:06

Argh I've booked a Personal Training session tomorrow and had a look on the PT's Insta. She's an Arbonne Hun. Noooooo! Too late to bail. Hope she doesn't suggest a load of bullshit supplements!

Jigsawpuzzle · 10/09/2019 22:36

Uber still trucking ,got a wedding to pay for and maybe other stuff. I notice son learning to drive is this prepping for his trip? I understand such matters are expensive 💰😂🚘🏦

Whiterangey · 11/09/2019 06:27

Can anyone point me in the direction of a breakdown of Avon, the marketing plan etc.

There is a jobs fair and Avon are going to be there. Lots of lovely employers covering a wide range of different jobs, and Avon.

Don't know if i'll be able to do anything about it, but will try, but need some info. It always seems to me to be thought of as not as bad as the others. I disagree, i've read personal stories regarding some aspects, the credit check as you order using credit and then hopefully the people who ordered will actually want the stuff when it's there.

Does anyone remember Kleeneze? A friend was really excited about it about 16 years ago. She is very very outgoing and a perfect saleswomen. She was talking about how she would be able to work from home and make a decent chunk of money and someone was coming to her home to tell her all about it and sign her up. Pre anti-mlm online explosion.

I can still remember the phonecall after the presentation, she kicked her out of her home after arguing with her for an hour about how it didn't add up. My friend was determined to go over every little detail and wouldn't be fobbed off.

I just looked and they went into administration last year. Seem to have a website selling stuff, but no MLM arm. They were apparently a founder member of the DSA.

Gotmychocolateimgood · 11/09/2019 06:43

BBL has had a tummy tuck. She's the bot I follow who needs one least!

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 11/09/2019 07:44

I think she had her tummy tuck some time ago.

She seems to be messing about with her face as well with lip injections at the moment. She was also posting about some other surgery recently (can't remember what it was now) and people were (rightly so IMO) trying to put her off as she didn't need it.

She has some serious body issues.

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 11/09/2019 07:44

*body image issues

FranceTeam · 11/09/2019 09:23

Are physically attractive bots more likely to be successful in MLM? Maybe it’s easier to attract people and also you can pretend your products are doing the work?

9dartfinish2nd · 11/09/2019 09:38

@Whiterangey

www.finance-guy.net/streetonomic/avon-review

He couldnt find an income disclure for them either but does have the 2015 annual report to fall back on.

Gotmychocolateimgood · 11/09/2019 09:44

I think people assume that BBL is losing weight due to the juice plus capsules, shakes, boosters etc when actually she eats tiny amounts of rice and veg which is the reason she's so tiny. Not healthy to be so obsessed with weight loss with two young girls around.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 11/09/2019 09:47

Ahhh Yawn's new White Rangey shows people were spot-on in here about Mr Yawn having to give up his leased Audi last year.

dickiedavisthunderthighs · 11/09/2019 09:50

In other news, huge pushes from Messiah to get people selling and recruiting. Comments on his personal FB have dwindled to double figures rather than treble. Hopefully it's finally on the wane.

Whiterangey · 11/09/2019 10:59

I'm always in favour of people having work done if that is what they choose to do, their body, their choice.

There is always pressure on women to stay young and beautiful, and have the perfect figure.

As women we are not allowed to show our age, we are not allowed to have the post pregnancy saggy belly. Being overweight is a sin.

Yawn puts herself out there, opens her life to scrutiny, sharing every aspect of it. I'll comment on her weight, as she is shilling dangerous weight loss products.If it saves one person from going down that path, it's worth it.

I do think the big bots feel they have to look as good as possible. Yawn is doing a success day pod, but in general they pick the thinner bots to present things, she hasn't been asked to speak or present for ages. Some of that will be because they would be a poor advert for the weight loss products, and some because the powers that be are total dickheads.

MLMsuperfan · 11/09/2019 11:06

Good video equally applicable to British MLMs.

Spongebobette · 11/09/2019 11:32

That’s a really good video

Whiterangey · 11/09/2019 11:37

I think the White Rangey is a replacement lease car. It's a very odd car for a man to drive in a leisure capacity. If it was in a work capacity, as in a 4 wheel drive long wheel based Range Rover that is never clean because it's a workhorse, that would be more fitting.

Though why pick a range rover when Land Cruisers exist.