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MLM Bot Watch 53: The saga continues...

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GoldenKelpie · 28/08/2019 08:00

Starting a new thread on all things MLM!

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Norma27 · 06/09/2019 16:37

Thanks dart. Thought so.
I don’t get his appeal at all.

Whiterangey · 06/09/2019 17:32

I don't think Castle is going to get anywhere near what she is asking for the stuff she is selling .

Her downline are also the wrong people to ask.

Cacacoisfarraige · 06/09/2019 17:34

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Whiterangey · 06/09/2019 17:51

Castle's house is no longer for sale.

Whiterangey · 06/09/2019 18:31

She is a fool with her money, buying very expensive stupid only to get rid of it two years later.

She hasn't worked for her money, she has scammed but not put in any hard graft. There is no value to it, it just appears so she spends recklessly without thought to the future.

fromdownwest · 06/09/2019 18:33

If I had that huge directors loan, a second business in mass decline, and an industry that is on the ropes, I would not be undertaking an expensive refurb of my oversized house

JasperRising · 06/09/2019 19:41

I find PHds invention of herself as a network marketing coach a bit bizarre because she wasn't exactly that successful. I mean yeah she got a couple(?) of cheques and was featured in the magazine but she was never in top 3 in the country. So, not only why should some with a traditional business be interested in her coaching (she has clearly realised they aren't) but why would a bot be interested?

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 06/09/2019 20:30

I guess PhD's USP (unique selling point) is that she's a "Doctor".

Always a good title to have when you're trying to scam and con people.

Look at "Dr" Gillian McKeith ......"The self-styled health guru has consistently argued she is entitled to call herself a doctor because of her distance learning PhD in holistic nutrition from the American Holistic College of Nutrition" (taken from a Guardian article) luckily the ASA disagreed and she was forced to remove the title Doctor from any adverts for her company or products

Maranello4 · 06/09/2019 22:50

Having working in corporate and HE, I cannot work out PhD as she gained this from a RG university. If she was any good she'd be pursuing an academic career or working in something related to her subject area, or consulting (can appreciate she said she didn't like the subject area, which also raises questions as to why she chose to study this). Reminds me a little of people I went to uni with who didn't want to work so they did their PGCE (!) or a PhD in an easy-ish subject.

Spongebobette · 06/09/2019 23:13

I agree, I work in HE; I cannot imagine how she got through her Viva!!

Gotmychocolateimgood · 07/09/2019 09:18

Off topic but a PGCE is really not an easy option.

Maranello4 · 07/09/2019 10:14

Yes absolutely...! It definitely isn't an easy option, never understood why people think that doing a PGCE, Masters etc is an easier alternative to finding a job. I think it shows that no-one is immune from the charms of an MLM and the techniques they use to draw people in.

summertime06 · 07/09/2019 10:39

I have a friend who has just taken a career break from a very good job because she was finding it difficult to juggle working and 3 children. A really intelligent woman. And she has just recently started selling younique. I really couldn't believe it when I got an invite to her new Facebook page and I ignored the invite but ended up being joined up anyway. Posting 5, sometimes 10 times a day, I really can't believe she's been sucked into it.

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GoldenKelpie · 07/09/2019 12:02

summertime that's very worrying you, about your friend. Coty recently removed Y from being associated to their brand. It's going to have a negative effect on the Y brand.

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Whiterangey · 07/09/2019 12:14

Castle has listed her stuff on ebay. She's listed it for too much and it won't sell.

With the mahogany sideboard there was briefly 2 listings on ebay. The one that is on there for £2k saying she paid £4k for it and it's in immaculate condition.

Thre other one had a starting bid of 99p and pointed out the huge crack across the top which was there when she bought it so it only cost something like £2500 when she bought it. That one's gone.

Ebay listing can be found in her insta stories.

hunzuncovered · 07/09/2019 12:17

I guess it can all depend on who you know and your lifestyle when it comes to joining an MLM. Not necessarily your level of intelligence.

I was talking to two women at work who had never heard of them. Both intelligent, both in really well paid jobs but also perfect for the MLM reps on the hunt.

Both women are mums, both wish they could spend a bit more time with the kids in the holidays and even though well paid they feel the hours they put in should be paid better.

They don't really go on social media that much, they don't really read blogs... so should something pop up on a bad day they might want to know more.

Like I said in my blog, 4 years ago I had never heard of this MLM stuff and I will say word for word what I was told.

"You WILL be on a full time income in 7 weeks working from home" (backed up with her logging into her bank account)

I was rarely on social media, I had friends who had never been in an mlm, my work was full of professionals and our incomes didn't really need top ups.

There were no warnings of anything else etc that made me think twice. Not that I was in a state of mind at the time to probably put the energy into thinking.

I just couldn't face work at the time, I wanted to be with my kids... It just seemed such a right time right place option for me. I didn't want to admit at that time, or the years that followed that I was vulnerable and lost.

I've walked away angry.

Angry at myself because I'm not stupid, yet I got pulled in.
Angry at the lies I was told just to line someone's pockets.
Angry at the people STILL lying to bring people in.

That's why my mission is to tear apart the bull that's spouted.

Whiterangey · 07/09/2019 12:42

Brainwashing isn't an intelligence thing and it doesn't mean you are stupid. In fact it seems to me that intelligent people are more susceptible. I wonder if it's because they trust their own judgement better because they are used to handling things without needing to ask others to explain things.

I got brainwashed, not MLM, but didn't see it coming and it was total and I still can't understand how it happened. I consider myself intelligent and didn't ask anyone's opinions at the time. It was a year ago and I was active on these threads and knew all about how it happens and the signs etc..

I feel stupid and embarrassed even though I'm not.

SaucySausageSandwiches · 07/09/2019 13:07

The state of those dining chairs Castle is trying to sell! They’re minging 🤮

CrazyOldBagLady · 07/09/2019 13:08

Anyone here know anything about Krizma? Seems to be a fairly new MLM basing itself in Darwen in Lancashire. A FB friend seems to have got involved. They are selling cheap looking wax melts, wax lamps, soaps etc.

leasedaudi · 07/09/2019 13:13

Oh @SaucySausageSandwiches but they will be "professionally cleaned prior to sale" whatever that means. Why not clean them now?

OhMyGodTheyKilledKenny · 07/09/2019 13:40

Christ on a bike!!

Who would spend over £2K on a used dining room table and chairs that are marked, dented, stained and with a chunk of wood missing from the bottom of one of the legs

Confused

This family live on a different planet. They really do think they're something special don't they!

hunzuncovered · 07/09/2019 13:44

@Whiterangey I still have to cringe and delete posts on my Facebook memories. I went out to dinner with a friend I've not seen for 18 months on Wednesday night and she said to me

"Are you still pyramid selling?"

My god, I wanted to hide under the table and die.

I think she picked up on the shame and let it go by changing the subject.

Whiterangey · 07/09/2019 13:47

They expect what they want to happen to them.

The money will run out eventually as the three of them ate used to having everything handed to them and have no business or money sense.

The three of them will end up broke in the way that those who win the lottery sometimes do.

Castle is selling about £15k worth of furniture she only bought 3 years ago. It will not sell unless she drastically reduces the price. She may end up will a couple of thousand for the lot. Poor financial planning.

She said that's only a little of what she will have to sell as well .

Gotmychocolateimgood · 07/09/2019 14:04

Nurse is going on and on in her fb post and story about how expensive Clarks shoes are. Someone needs to tell her that:

  1. Clarks shoes are not compulsory
  2. Struggling to afford them may be a sign that her bizniss isn't making her much (any?) money.
Twentytwentyhindsight · 07/09/2019 14:13

I think we are all missing the point of Castle's price points. To you or me, it may look like tatty superannuated furniture that was bought at an excessive price originally, and is now being flogged off at equally ridiculously overinflated prices.

To desperate lowly bots, they have the power of religious relics. Anything that Castle's arse has anointed by sitting on it is a potent attractor of immeasurable blessings and wealth, and is worth more than it's weight in gold- it is a guarantor of future passive, willable and uncapped income.

Cheap at twice the price, I'd say. They're an investment in yourself.