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New joint claim child tax

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Guest1233 · 26/06/2019 09:43

Hello I am after some advice really about a new joint claim for child tax. My partner is moving in on the 1st july. He will be starting a new job to. What information do tax credits want when starting a new joint claim?

Also does child tax payments stop until the new calim is sorted?

He will have to work a week in hand.

Thank you for any help

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Guest1233 · 26/06/2019 09:45

Also can it be done online via manage my tax credits?

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Two4Tuesday · 26/06/2019 14:30

As far as I'm aware, you wouldn't be able to make a new joint claim. You'd have to move to Universal Credit and make a joint claim with them instead.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 26/06/2019 15:11

Are there any areas not yet on UC?
I did this last year and stayed on ctc as (even though in a UC area) I have 3 children

Guest1233 · 26/06/2019 15:19

I have more than 2 children so wont be going on UC, as they pushed back when they will roll it out for families with 3 or more children.

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SuperLoudPoppingAction · 26/06/2019 16:02

OK so I was in the same boat.
I can tell you what happened for me, from memory.
I closed the old claim and started a new one with my partner.
So just now when I've had my renewal I had to complete the declaration for both.
I don't remember the payments stopping.
I had to give her NI number and projected income and the same for me. Maybe her employer and dob but I can't remember.

The one thing I will say is watch out for them completely ignoring most of this if you do it on the phone.
They put us down as £1 income a year and started paying us loads.
I noticed online and fixed it.

Babyroobs · 26/06/2019 16:11

You will need to make a joint claim for Universal credit. It no longer matters how many children you have.

Two4Tuesday · 26/06/2019 21:10

Moving from a single to a joint claim, or vice versa, is one of the changes that forces a move over to UC. The number of children you have isn't relevant.
If you ring the Tax Credit Office to end your single claim, you will be told to make a joint UC claim.

AnotherEmma · 26/06/2019 21:12

Will you still be eligible? Have you done a benefits check?

As PPs said it will be UC now.

SuperLoudPoppingAction · 26/06/2019 23:05

Does a change of circumstances mean no transitional protection?

If I moved to uc I would get 12.99 a Month - not worth it if I got hassled to look for more hours all the time in my v obscure line of work.

Is moving in together definite?

Babyroobs · 26/06/2019 23:25

Making a joint claim means a switch to UC. there is no transitional protection with natural migration where a change of circumstances causes you to need to claim UC. It is only manged migration which will mean you get transitional protection, this could be years away for most.

AnotherEmma · 26/06/2019 23:27

The plans for managed migration and any transitional protection haven't been confirmed yet.

But we do know that anyone claiming UC now due to a change in circumstances won't get transitional protection.

However transitional protection might not even be relevant, it depends on individual circumstances.

MyDcAreMarvel · 26/06/2019 23:33

Op the more than two children exemption stopped in February. You will need to claim UC, tax credits will stop and UC takes five weeks.

Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 12:07

I'm sure they was holding off for more than 3 children due to the impact it put on those with less than 2 children. I will ring up and ask

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YerAWizardHarry · 27/06/2019 12:11

The more than 2 child rule changed back at the beginning of the year. No new tax credits claims being accepted at all unless on a specific disability benefit

Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 12:12

Yeah that's what they just said it will be UC

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Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 12:14

So how does anyone have any success stories with UC because I have only every heard horror stories. Plus is child benefit separate?

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MyDcAreMarvel · 27/06/2019 12:18

Child benefit is separate yes.

Babyroobs · 27/06/2019 12:27

Many people claim UC with no problems and some find they are better off. I think the main problems ( in my experience) are people having problems with having to pay childcare up front before they can claim it back and also elements being missed off. It's important to check your first statement carefully to make sure all the correct elements are there. It can be problematic if either of you are paid four weekly or weekly as UC amounts will vary depending how many paydays have fallen in your assessment period.

Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 12:45

I have just finished university so looking for work which now i will have to look for evening work, to save on child care as I know so many people who are short etc all the time. my partner starts a new job which will be weekly pay.

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Babyroobs · 27/06/2019 12:48

You will just need to be aware that your Uc will vary each month if your partner is paid weekly as there will be some months where four pay days fall in your assessment period and some months where five do.

Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 12:48

Can I ask one more question, UC replaces other benefits but does it still count as the same ie child tax credits is amount you should receive for a child etc. Is UC the same? I have done the

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Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 12:51

The calculations and it says £50 better off but zero help with rent and council tax so not really better off until I get into work. I'm so worried about 5 week wait as my partner has his own Bill's etc even after paying them there is no way he can cover my half of everything.

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Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 12:52

Thank you babyroobs I'm sure we will get used to it eventually just gonna be hard for me living monthly

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Babyroobs · 27/06/2019 13:03

If you rent you will get a rent element of UC, so I'm not sure why you say no help with rent ? All the Uc elements that you are entitled to couples element, rent element, child element(s) are added together then reduced by wages .

Guest1233 · 27/06/2019 13:09

Oh when I did the calculator it says the estimated amount then council tax. Xx

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