"Back to the 60's movement"

[katseyes7]

A campaign is being headed by Michael Mansfield QC called "Back to the 60's movement".
The movement is taking the DWP to the High Court on the 5th and 6th June in an attempt to get the 3.9 million women justice over non consultation in raising the pensionable age to 66 and above. However, so far there does not appear to be any media coverage regarding this!

Could we get this out there and raise awareness please?

I hope we get justice and get the retirement age for women brought back down. My husband retired at 65 and I need to wait until I am 66 years. Instead of us being able to enjoy his retirement he has to wait until he is 68. He suffers from ill health and may not make it to 70.

We should not have to work to aged 66 to collect our pension and bus passes. We should have a choice. I know we are living longer but we all want to enjoy our older lives not become too old to enjoy our families and time.

I fall in this bracket. I was aware of the original 65 but feel it unfair to wait another year as I have a full contribution record.
Luckily I retired early due to works pensions

Fingers crossed there is some recompense for the WASPI women :)

I have to work till i'm 67 and I honestly don't think I can do it, plus I've had hardly any time to prepare financially for it.

Have joined WASPI but i'm not really sure what to make of them to be honest.

www.backto60.com/

This is the website for #backto60 - the Judicial Review is on 5th/6th June 2019
www.backto60.com/

I support this and following with interest, also affected by the changes.
Something needs to be done to address this

It actually says, see if your mp is on the lists?
If not send them an email, there’s a copy and paste letter for you to use.

I done it

1950sBornWoman Thank you for that website link, l wasn't aware of that.

l've got my workplace pension (l turned 60 last September) and l'm actually worse off than l was on benefits. l've lost £250 a month in housing benefit, and because l've lost my council tax benefit altogether, l'm now paying £90 a month more.
l'm still signing on at the jobcentre, but only for NI for my state pension (apparently because l paid a lower contribution when l was in my last job for 28 years). When l sign on, there's a small group of us, all around 60. The last time l was there, we were told "you need to get your fingers out, you can't stay on benefits all your lives!"
This to people who have worked for over 40 years, and paid contributions all that time. lt's humiliating and grossly insulting.
Having access to the state pension now would actually double my current income. What they've done to us is a disgrace. l really hope Mike Mansfield can get something done about this.

Nice supportive thread about the Back to the 60s.

Heres the one on Pension Credit.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/legal_money_matters/3479693-Changes-to-Pension-Credit

So what’s the possible outcomes to this then?

I know this may sound mean but what exactly is it back to sixty want?
Rather than focusing on the accelerated rise in 2011, something I think may have had support of the wider public, they are focusing on reversing 25 year old legislation but only for specific people with a cliff edge if you fall outside their target group.

Born 31st December 1959, you were treated unfairly.
Born 1st January 1960, were not interested in you.

It was about equalising pension ages so some women were always going to lose out. The original legislation in 1995 was designed to be a gradual increase over time to offset this loss. I don't see how anyone can say this was not fair. I know some complain they were not notified but the debates and legislation was well publicised at the time and in all honesty what would people have done differently had they been notified?
I mean genuinely done differently, not just state "they would have planned for it"

Even if they had been told in 1995, most of the reasons given for why this increase is unfair are exactly the same reasons that even if the women knew they were in no position to do anything about it anyway.

This is why I think their challenge is flawed. If they stuck to campaining about the acceleration being unfair I think they had a chance but they haven't.

I don't think its massively unfair really. I mean it is unfair, but so is so much. So many financial situations are created by being lucky with timing or unlucky. Yes this group has been very unlucky with the timing of this change. But given that the reality is people are living too long for us to be able to afford state pensions at the current rate, surely we need to change the discussion.

Do we pay more in taxes to cover a higher state pension? Do we make the state pension means tested only and fund an increase that way? (Which I think will have to happen long before I am old enough to receive it.)
Or do we seriously look at our employment laws and decide to change and support ALL workers, including older ones?

i was born December 1960 I will not get my pension until September 2027 hope they win this campaign

Genuine question, but has everyone actually been disadvantaged?

DM is a 'WASPI woman' who saw her pension age increase from 60 to 63ish. During this time, the state pension changed and increased.

If she had got her state pension at 60, she would have got the old, lower amount, currently £156 per week and wouldn't likely have been entitled to pension credit or other top ups because she also has a private pension.

But because she reached state pension age after the state pension changed in 2016, she gets £203 per week.

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/money-legal/pensions/state-pension/basic-state-pension/

https://www.ageuk.org.uk/information-advice/money-legal/pensions/state-pension/new-state-pension/

So at some point, that extra £47 per week will mean she gets more overall than if she'd started getting the lower amount a couple of years earlier?