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Bot Watch 49- exposing MLMs for the scams they really are. You won't make money and you will lose friends!

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gotmychocolateimgood · 05/05/2019 20:30

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Welcome if you have just joined us. We would love to hear from you if you have been involved in network marketing. Support given to those who wish to escape. Exposing lies, cult like behaviour and pyramid shaped activity.

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Ilovefluffysheep · 10/05/2019 14:25

Not sure that is right acatcalledjohn, just used xe.com and it gave $43,028.17 as £33,045.13.

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2019 14:26

Those of us watching last year knew the party was over for FLP UK.

We asked ourselves at the time how long it would take for the penny to drop and which (ex)senior bots would jump ship. Only PhD left.

It is now two chequeless years for Homeschool & Yawn. Surely the penny has dropped? Or are they incapable of envisaging anything else, and they will continue to hang on in there until grim death?

I see a lot of downsizing all round. Castle is renting in Lanzarotte and can't sell her house. Yawn's BFF has already downsized the dream house, Homeschool has gone from private, to home, to state education, Yawn's Rangie is now a leased Audi...

The lifestyle adjustments will have to get even more severe. Mr Yawn has been unretired, will we see Castle's BFF back on the beat?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2019 14:29

@Ilovefluffysheep - that figure included tax.

Norma27 · 10/05/2019 14:31

We need someone to ask yawn and bff on their fb pages when they will be going up on stage! Just like last year!

Ilovefluffysheep · 10/05/2019 14:32

@Twentytwentyhindsight apologies, I didn't realise!

acatcalledjohn · 10/05/2019 14:33

Yes, all these earnings are subject to tax.

It could be less, depending on how far over the threshold it takes her.

DoraExplorer99 · 10/05/2019 14:35

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Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2019 14:38

@Norma27 - BFF will have known, they notify you of your CB level (if any) at the same time as your rally qualification level.

Yawn cleverly hid part of her notification when posting a picture of it last year, letting everyone believe she was getting a cheque.

acatcalledjohn · 10/05/2019 14:41

Someone remind me of the size of Yawn's cheque this year... Wink

Whiterangey · 10/05/2019 14:43

Homeschool will join another mlm company shortly. Yawn will carry on with forever until she has nothing left. Castle and sibs are in for the long haul as well. They believe it will get better.

Castle owes £352k directors loan. That should have been paid back by now, if she hasn't managed to we will know soon. If it has then this year's will be the same or bigger and she definitely won't be able to pay that back.

The greedy arseholes deserve this.

What are uber's and Bloodsuckers cheques likely to be like?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2019 14:43

It was 10 times the amount she got last year.

gotmychocolateimgood · 10/05/2019 14:44

352k! She must be shitting herself. I would be

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gotmychocolateimgood · 10/05/2019 14:45

Yup, 0 x 10 is 0

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DownThePan · 10/05/2019 14:46

The U.K. are country number 5 for retail sales, they’ve managed to climb up the slippery pole somehow. That’s what the top Bots will use to motivate the minions and say - “look it can get better next year!”

RelativePitch · 10/05/2019 14:48

A few days ago Nurse Bot commented on Yawn's FB that she couldn't wait to see her on stage getting her bonus cheque. The comment has since been removed. Wonder what nurse bot will make of it all?

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2019 14:49

If the UK has moved up a place since last year, yet the cheques have all but disappeared, it's hardly the most ringing endorsement!

SnoogyWoo · 10/05/2019 14:49

Wow it’s a bloodbath with these low cheques and massive Director loans. There is just no way out for them!

MLMsuperfan · 10/05/2019 14:53

I can see how the cheque parade could be very persuasive for someone new to botting and on a low income. Those are big numbers on the cheques, and having so many people collect one makes it seem achievable.

DownThePan · 10/05/2019 14:55

How interesting that Yawn removed Nurse’s comment about the cheque. How will Yawn spin it to Nurse?

Yawn has also stated she wants to build the biggest team this year. WHY BOTHER?!

Twentytwentyhindsight · 10/05/2019 14:56

Yawn's manipulativeness knows no bounds!

She has known since January (at the very least) that she wasn't getting a cheque (again), yet clearly strung nurse along that she would.

Happy for her mentor and hero, nurse posts an encouraging and positive message, only to get slapped down and told to remove it.

She then discovers the cheque Yawn let her believe was coming (and which would also be coming to Nurse if she did as she was told) does not exist.

Nurse's Reaction will be a good indication of how botted she is. Will she continue to worship Yawn and swallow whatever shite she is given, or will she finally realise she has been fed a pack of absolute lies?

Awholeheapofnothing · 10/05/2019 15:00

What a big change from last year and the year before - excuse the pun
but - Nothing - indeed lasts Forever!
The houses the cars, the lifestyles, extravagances when they said
they were working in the nooks and crannies of their days.
Some of them gave up good jobs and incomes in order to follow
this dream.

A dream where the things they touched turned to gold - then to pewter now for some it's nothing but sand.

The writing is on the wall for a few of them - what some have gone
through - sacrificed - the shame and embarrassment will be theirs - those whose bragging and pushing crap into peoples faces - the adage " be careful whom you trample on the way up - as you will surely reconnect with them on the way down"

fromdownwest · 10/05/2019 15:00

You can see why Castle is playing up with the Air B'n'B Fisaco.

A Miele induction hob is pocket money when you earn a £400k bonus, however, when you and your husbands combined GROSS income, before any tax liabilities is just above £30k, it starts to become quote a noticeable dent in your pocket.

Whiterangey · 10/05/2019 15:01

Nurse is fully botted, the only thing that will make her step back a bit is lack of money. I think that is going to happen imminently. She doesn't appear top be getting any orders.

I imagine the top boys have been buying lots of products for the cc's ad they aren't getting as many cc's through new recruitment as they were. They need to buy certain amounts each month to keep their rank and get paid from their downline.

FranceTeam · 10/05/2019 15:02

But if you owe a directors loan, would it not be the tax element you would become liable for, not the full amount of the loan?

Even if you did repay the loan, then it would still sit in a company you owned ?

Tupperwarelid · 10/05/2019 15:05

So am I right in thinking that Castle’s bonus is a tenth of what it was 2 years ago? I don’t know exactly what police officers earn but surely it’s getting to the point they would earn more if they rejoined?