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Tax charge on child benefit - totally confused.

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Lindy2 · 21/12/2018 14:52

Can anyone help please with a question on child benefit and the tax charge if you earn over £50,000?
DH had an unexpectedly good year of bonuses last tax year so for the first time ever had earnings over £50,000.
He had earnings of £58,000 and had employee pension contributions of £6,000 into a company pension scheme.
Everything I've seen says you take pension contributions off your earnings to work out the figure for your earnings for the tax charge.
This would be £52,000 after the pension so we expected to pay a few hundred pounds in tax.
HMRC say we are wrong and the full £58,000 is the right figure so tax of £1,700 is due - now and in one lump sum.
They won't explain why and they won't put it in writing. They just told him they are right we are wrong so pay up. It also doesn't help that their phone call to him was followed by a scam call just 3 minutes later saying that a warrant will be taken out for his arrest for tax fraud! Poor DH went into a right panic.
We've established the first call was HMRC. The second was a scam that has now been reported.
I'm guessing we have to pay which is horrible timing as DH will also be made redundant in the new year. I'd just really like to understand why everything I've read on the HMRC website says take off pension contributions but apparently that doesn't apply to him.
Would really appreciate it if someone more knowledgable could explain it! Thank you.

OP posts:
Lindy2 · 21/12/2018 22:09

Thank you Ta1kinpeace. I'd really appreciate that. You are very kind. I'll get all the details and message you tomorrow.

OP posts:
babysharkah · 21/12/2018 23:10

Dh has been earning 58/59 for a few years but his pension contributions are massive and dropped him under 50. Never had a need to contact HMRC not been contacted.

I think the problem is the bonus throwing predictions for the tax year out.

fromdownwest · 22/12/2018 12:48

I think the OP states they have car allowance, so I assume no P11d, unless he/she receives a fuel card.

Company pensions DO count, all UK registered pension schemes are used to calculate your adjusted net income. If it is salary sacrifice, then the gross pension contributions are not taken off his income, as in essence he has not actually earned that money as its take off his GROSS pay.

As mentioned, if you can post the P60 taxable pay then we can see then

ForgivenessIsDivine · 22/12/2018 14:24

This is all for the latest tax year. Fill in the self assessment form and submit it with the figures you have. If your assumptions are correct the calculations will show you owe the lower amount.

Ta1kinpeace · 22/12/2018 14:30

forgiveness
You are assuming that the OP already has a UTR set up and knows which box to put a non standard higher rate pension contribution into

that is quite an assumption

hence why I have offered to check the numbers in my software
and then get them to use an accountant

ForgivenessIsDivine · 22/12/2018 18:51

Fair enough about me assuming they could access on line. Kind of you to offer to calculate for them.

Ta1kinpeace · 22/12/2018 19:12

By the way, Lindy has been in touch and worked out what has happened

and will be using an accountant next year Grin

RB68 · 22/12/2018 19:19

No tax is due right now - you have until end of Jan to file tax return for PREVIOUS year (to April 2017 to April 2018) and pay any outstanding tax after submission.

For THIS tax year on self assessment you do not need to submit until Jan 2019 latest (online version)

Get DH registered to do an online tax return at the very least, consult briefly with an accountant (remember they will charge for this) and if you think its worth it do that.

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