MLM Bot Watch 37 - Planes, Trainings and Automobiles

[Whiterangey]

Brand new thread for a brand new month.

In which this years bonus cheques will be revealed, which is my favourite time of year.

Car crash?

Long time lurker with a cheeky name change here...

I am confused about Brokebot. Was this pyramid scheme the same one that he did that awful long live about just this week, talking about its amazing compensation plan?

Looking at his posts, I don’t think he has stopped to think about his choices here- just that the company is always the problem. The problem is never that he is looking to make a fast buck with a scam that (as pointed out earlier) could have been easily checked out online.

I have long felt that he knows it’s all a scam, and his tactic is to get as much money from downlines as possible before playing the ‘but I am so honest, here’s my latest truth bomb’ card.

Shame there are people out there gullible or vulnerable enough to fall for it. Shame on him.

I am also a long term lurker- this thread I on of my favourites to read if I am stuck with nothing to read somewhere. Never had any direct Mom experience though so never posted before.

This morning a friend has posted about enjo? I can't find much online about the business end (just loads of people selling cloths for £27) is it Mlm? And can one of you clever people point me in the direction of any info about it? Thanks

I'm torn between ignoring her and following her page to watch the drama unfold.

MessiahBot is saying he has already 'locked in' his inner circle for the second coming.

I wonder how many of the familiar con artists leaders will be on the list (salon, anyone?)

I also wonder how his loyal followers who have trekked through the wilderness with him will feel about being assigned an upstart upline?

Useful reminder about the scale of crypto scams. And these are just the ones that have been reported. I imagine the unreported losses to be massive.

www.which.co.uk/news/2018/04/celebrity-bitcoin-scams-cost-victims-tens-of-thousands/?amp_markup=1

Can I just say how beautiful my 42 year old skin looks. Especially with a face full of make up on my filtered pics.
I am beautiful! By the way, did I tell anybody that I am off to Dallas soon?

@ArbunneHun - i recently saw a very strange post from a low level bot claiming that a cryptocurrency-based MLM had enabled her to go from being brassic to retirement within the space of 4-5 months or something... but then she'd lost it all, forcing her to come out of retirement & join a new crypto-MLM which, this time, was absolutely the real thing. Just didn't seem like a tale that anyone with an even vaguely normal level of credulity would find in any way convincing.

What are the best ways to help somebody who is fully and I mean fully botted?
What processes or techniques can somebody employ to show them the true path to the light?
My friend has finally turned - it's caused a shitstorm at home - her OH is beside himself, they have 3 young children, she's been at it for 5 years and all she now does is eat, sleep, shit MLM.

I won't put the company that she is with in case she reads these threads but I am now totally concerned!

@Norma27 My skin is also flawless, i've got no flaws, no lines, no texture, my skin and features are just a blur to be honest, my lips are so blurred that my upper lip doesn't have enough colour to stand out. Which is concerning, i've either filtered my face so much that it looks like how it would look in dense fog, or I am anaemic. It's one of the two.

Most people won't report crypto losses due to embarrassment at having been conned.

I'm a member of a couple of USI team groups, and when it became apparent that it was a Ponzi some of them kept on insisting that USI would come through for them and the rest just disappeared.

No angry outbursts, no fuming because they were conned. They just went quietly.

The leaders went quiet, some had already moved on to other crypto scams. One in particular had a few scams on the go, he has now had his assets removed from his possession while the SEC or whatever and federal whatever thingy US Police type people look into his dealings.

The wild card is Bitconnect. A lot of people are being very vocal about the scammy bastards who fronted that scheme and about how much money they individually lost.

@dropdeadfitty sorry to say but there’s probably little you can actually do.

You say 5 years? Is she actually making any money, do you think? In my experience you need to tread carefully, as any sensible or logical enquiry (like whether she makes any net profit, how many hours she really puts in etc) are turned back on you as you being negative. I found myself being given the cold shoulder for weeks just asking my bot friend whether she had a pension plan in place. Apparently that was negative because she would be retiring on the “passive income from her downlines”. Bear in mind, from what I have seen (and know from her annoyed husband) her customer base consists of her mum, sister in law, and some bloke she met at the gym. This plan is, of course, utter bollocks and I think even she knows this deep down. To admit you might be wrong, though, or actually need to be honest about finances, seems to be unforgivably negative in bot-land.

I think all you can do is be there for her, without judgement, when she finally realises that it’s all nonsense. People here have had great advice when coming out of MLMs but it’s a huge step and not easy.

You sound like a lovely friend

Is Broke now recanting on his repudiation of his travel ponzi, is he being ironic, I admit to being genuinely confused by his inability to make sense...

Oh, now he seems to be on the offensive again.
According to him, he has been in hospital all day to treat chest pains (lucky he was already booked in for backache).
For someone so ailing, he is impressively vocal- maybe I need some of whatever he is currently flogging!
Jeez, he's a prick, his only saving grace is how pathetic he really is.

There is some very good information on what to do when a friend or family member is heavily involved in an MLM. I thought it was on the Botwatchblog but I can't find it. Or it may be on Timelessvie blog. Someone will post on here and point you in the right direction.

Oh wow. The fall out and accusations on broke's recent postings is absolute gold. One poor woman who called him a scammer is being accused of sending him nudey pics. Pure Jeremy Kyle.
Seems his teamies are slowly realising this mlm thing is the pile of crap it really is.

He looks really ill in the live I am watching now, he seriously needs to get some help. I know he has a criminal record but surely he could get some kind of job. My company knowing recruited someone on probation and he just could not work on Tuesday as he had to check in with his PO. Having a CR does not exclude you from finding a job. Did he actually have an angina attack or not as I imagine he would be in hospital atm.

Feel really bad for the guy. He looks seriously ill and he's just starting to rant. He needs to step away from Facebook.

ladiva
I’m much more cynical than you.
He was warned about this travel company ages ago. He went full steam ahead anyway.

He is now loudly acknowledging that he illegally recruited to a pyramid scheme.
I’m not surprised he doesn’t look well to be honest.
The threats he makes on that live are dangerous too. While I’m sure it’s all hot air , he is making veiled threats at people about hunting them down.
He just does not learn.

A doctor saw his wrist band and asked him all about the CBD and is interested in getting some to give to his terminal cancer suffering Mum.

What a load of made up, but harmful, bollocks.

He can stick his CBD oil where it will take a hell of a lot of industrial strength lubricant to get it out again.

What he has said indicates that he told the doctor it would be useful in some way to his terminal cancer suffering Mum.

Please add in some curse words of your own choice in my sentences.

That conversation never happened, but him putting it on FB as a true story could put others at risk. At the very list it is very very misleading.

Medical claims are to be reported to Trading Standards right?

He talks about NHS trials. Here is what I found www.walesonline.co.uk/news/health/nhs-facility-cardiff-testing-cannabis-11775363

"A spokesman for Cardiff and Vale University Health Board said: “As a University Health Board we undertake a number of commercial activities, such as quality control with private companies, including Medipen."

Doesn't sound like drug trials to me.

It sounds like they are testing it to check out the cannabinoid concentration and safety. Not testing it to see if it helps anyone with anything like terminal cancer.

Insert more curse words into the above sentences.

Drug trial for epilepsy in children.

www.theguardian.com/society/2017/may/24/cannabis-drug-cuts-seizures-in-children-with-severe-epilepsy-in-trial

"“This is cannabidiol. It is not the oils that are available over the internet and the results cannot be ascribed to that,” she said. “Families should not be feeling this is something they should be able to get [for themselves]. This is a pharmaceutical product.”"

There have been no clinical trials on the oil that you can buy on the internet, there have been no trials on the oil that Broke is selling and making all his fucking bullshit claims about.

Maybe it does help pain, maybe it's a placebo effect. Nobody can say because there have been no clinical trials. Anecdotal evidence is not acceptable as medical evidence, for good reason, people are biased and the placebo effect is very very real.

@Ladiva, unfortunately, it doesn't cut much ice.

Yes, he has been propelled into the spotlight for exposing the travel MLM as a pyramid scheme.

However, other posters in this thread had already pointed to this being the case to him. He chose to ignore them and carried on recruiting (whilst at the same time accusing rival schemes of exactly this). He can't plead ignorance or naivety. He only came to the conclusion when he had trouble getting paid.

I went to hospital for an outpatient procedure last week (as did he today), and was given a bracelet like his. Proof of an angina attack, it is not.

Methinks he is attempting to overplay an (admittedly strong) "victim of the big man" hand, probably in pursuit of of damages for health consequences of their actions.

If he is genuinely suffering Ill health, he exhausted my sympathy a couple of scams back...

This is not to excuse the actions of the cynical initiators of all those pyramid schemes that create this behaviour in the first place, and are the only ones who will really profit, but this boy has cried wolf too many times.

Someone mentioned he knew what he was doing as a salesperson - I don't buy it this time either.

Pasting a screenshot with his password was a dick move 100% but I'm not sure how we go from that to threatening his family unless there's a part I missed.

@MLMsuperfan, as far as I can see from the original post on his first live, not much more was given away.

This does not take away from a major data protection issue if another rep can get hold of this sort of information.

While I am sure there are plenty of people who have been scammed by Broke who would like to give him a piece of their mind, I do not think more was given away than he already shares on a public FB profile.

Therefore, the personal (& family) safety issues are being overpaid in the same way as are the health repercussions.

Call me a cynic, but I think Broke is going all out for the first significant payout from MLM in his career (didn't he piss away a previous substantial payout, according to a 'tell all sob story live' a few months ago?

*Overplayed, not overpaid

dora
No one has threatened his family. He believes though that because his home address and phone number was displayed thatvtheyre all at risk now.
I assume this will be played upon in his quest for compensation.