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Housing benefit

38 replies

Password9 · 14/02/2018 17:05

Can a 19 year old grandson claim housing benefit help when paying rent for a single room in same house as nan lives ?? She is only claiming single person allowance on council tax currently.

Have looked and cant find anywhere that says he can. But also not found anything that says he cant.

Cheers. Look fwd to replies. Maybe someone in same position.

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Becca19962014 · 15/02/2018 10:09

Apologies for the essay, but I think this needs more thought being put into it.

I will add one more thing, it was expected when this relative was unexpectedly ill I would look after them which I was physically incapable of doing even if I could get the annual leave (which I couldn't as my leave was necessary for work based exams). They took it as a slight when it wasn't.

I didn't mind paying rent, though I felt at the time it was a lot they asked for (£350 a month), and the differences between us didn't mean I felt unwelcome though there were issues it wasn't until I left I found out how much she had hated having me there and what I thought were jokes about moving out through mutal friends werent which was very hurtful.

Despite trying we never got that relationship back we had before.

I was very naive about what it was going to be like living with someone so much older than me who had lived alone for two decades.

Viviennemary · 15/02/2018 13:10

Why is it that his own Grandmother doesn't expect to pay (not that she even does if she owns the house outright) but yet the taxpayer is expected to pay. This country has gone benefit mad IMHO. And she should not be getting a single person's discount on her council tax if he's living in her house and is not a student.

Babyroobs · 15/02/2018 13:21

Viviennemary - I've seen a recent flurry of people buying buy to lets to rent out to their kids which the kids then claim housing benefit for ( apparently it's legal as long as a proper contract has been drawn up ?? ). So the state pays for these people to live in their parents buy to lets - properties that those kids will possibly one day inherit. It makes no sense to me but many people see nothing wrong in it. I suppose another way of looking at it is that if they weren't paying off their parents buy to let mortgages they'd be paying off someone else's which is true. The whole housing situation has gone mad , and I agree the whole country has gone benefit mad.

Password9 · 15/02/2018 16:58

He lives with mum not nan
He can claim housing benefit
Technically its the council making him homeless. As they wont let him keep the flat when his mum moves out.
Nan lives a town away and I reckon would need about £35 aweek. Plus he would need bus fares. A room let is on top off current town. This would need £15 a week to pay for shortfall as I dought he will qualify for Discretionary payments. Awesome stated it could cause more aggro if stays with nan. So financially for him it would be better to make ago off it on own. His good kid id let him a room if I had one. He will get like £45 Jsa as has 2hr a week job based on current circumstances.

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HarveyKietelRabbit · 15/02/2018 17:08

Why would a council let a 19 year old single man 'keep' a flat that he isn't entitled to when social housing is in enormous demand and they could put an entire family in there? So they're not making him homeless - it has never been his flat and he's not entitled to it.

Viviennemary · 15/02/2018 17:18

His Mum is making him homeless if anybody is. Why doesn't he live with her wherever she is moving to. She's the one giving up her tenancy. You can't just abandon your DC's and expect the state to step in and pay.

Becca19962014 · 15/02/2018 18:06

OP said He's decided not to live with his mum. The council are not making him homeless, he has the offer of somewhere to live, with his mum in Wales. He's decided not to do this.

He won't get JSA it'll be universal credit (as far as I'm aware nowhere in the uk hasn't got all singles claiming UC) and that's monthly at just under £200 a month deducting his wages assuming he gets minimum wage and he'll need to afford at least one month or so of living without that. He won't get housing element as that's only available after 21 so that money is for everything including travel for interviews/job centre. Someone will need to be his guarantor - and that can mean earning huge amounts and he'll need to have credit checks done as well before renting. He'll need to submit pay slips to prove income and attend jobcentre every week, he'll very likely get told to increase his hours and if during the day could lose his job as he's expected to be available for work and interviews and courses immediately.

He needs to understand fully what he is doing and it doesn't sound like he does.

Becca19962014 · 15/02/2018 18:07

He won't get discretionary payments either as he has somewhere else to go and is choosing not to. He'll get the basic under 25 rate for everything.

ThePinkPanter · 15/02/2018 18:21

I'm astounded anyone could be this entitled. If it was a private rental being given up you would hardly be claiming it was the landlord making him homeless. Disgraceful.

MyDcAreMarvel · 16/02/2018 17:05

You are making to sense op. The extra cost his ban would incur, 25% council tax extra gas, electricity , water if metered should be paid from his wages or jsa not hb.

MyDcAreMarvel · 16/02/2018 17:05

*no

ZBIsabella · 16/02/2018 17:10

This really does show the divide in this country and it's not really the council paying - it would be us tax payers funding it.

MyDcAreMarvel · 16/02/2018 17:12

Ahh nan I can see my post doesn't make sense either.

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