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Becoming debt free in 2018

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iammeegan · 16/12/2017 10:55

I've decided to make a plan to become debt free in 2018.
Money and debt give me terrible anxiety which means I bury my head in the sand and it's become out of control!
So starting in the new year and I'm going to stop spending and start paying everything off.
I would love some support and people to help motivate me.
I have already worked out that I can be debt free in 14 months with some serious cut backs and forward planning.
I'm currently on mat leave but will be returning to work in March which will allow me to pay off more each month

So would anyone like to join me?

OP posts:
GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 15/04/2018 05:43

0% doesn’t last forever. Obviously it depends if you’re trying to become debt free or not.

Mortgages are the same amount each month for a fixed term so not the same.

TalkinPeece · 15/04/2018 10:48

Hi there,
Yup the standing order trick works on debts where the standard minimum payment is a proportion of the outstanding balance
what starts as a few pence extra each month rapidly snowballs.

Mortgages tend to be a fixed amount each month - but if its an Interest Only mortgage the payment is not covering the capital

Bank loans tend to be fixed amount

If its an interest free card the main thing is to make sure you have cleared EVERY PENNY before the interest kicks in as they screw you royally at that stage

Makingdinner · 15/04/2018 11:38

talkin because I want to throw him a party.. I'm sure a cake and a few normal balloons is fine (and is exactly what we did last year) but I want to throw him a party because he'll enjoy it. I know he won't remember it bit he won't remember the last birthday or last two xmas' s but I still bought him presents!

I will be having normal blown up balloons too by the way for kicking about or whatever 2yos want to do with them!

TalkinPeece · 15/04/2018 18:00

making
You will never get out of debt if you think that way
he does not give a shit if you throw a party
its all about you
so you need to decide what you really want
sorry to be harsh
but mindless spending like that is dumb even for those who can afford it
clear your debt
build savings
THEN spend on frivolities

twinkledag · 15/04/2018 19:11

You're right @TalkinPeece. We have mindlessly spent on coffees this weekend whilst meeting a friend. Suppose it's cheaper than a meal out?

Roll on payday then I can sort new month's budget. DH and I have discussed withdrawing £100 a week as spends for all 3 of us. We think it's too much but will see how it goes.

The good thing is we have stopped mindlessly spending on meals out, we have been making more of an effort to eat before we go somewhere or wait till we get home. That's really been helping and means the odd £5 spend on coffee isn't that bad.

Mamaryllis · 15/04/2018 19:19

Talking - I don't get paper statements... I looked on the cc website, but maybe I need to try downloading my statement from the online system and see if it's on there... in the interim I just topped up my monthly payment to the amount it was last month. They don't like to make it easy ;-)

GeorgieTheGorgeousGoat · 15/04/2018 19:21

How did you top the payment up? That will be the same details that you used for that.

TalkinPeece · 15/04/2018 19:34

mama
sorry, please tell me that you are actually checking your statement line by line
to be sure that what they are billing you has actually been spent by you
PLEASE
my card company make at least two errors per year
are you REALLY just accepting what they tell you without checking it ?
WHY?

go to the website NOW
download AND CHECK all of your statements

and as georgie says - the top up bank details are the ones you need for the standing order

Mamaryllis · 15/04/2018 20:40
Blush I can do top up payments because I routinely used to make those payments to the card (before I got extremely lazy and set up the direct limit as once in a blue moon I would forget to make the payment in time and get billed for it). So since then I just click on the existing payee if I want to make a payment other than the dd. But neither the existing payment option, nor the dd option has the detail required to set up a new dd. But fear not! Thanks to your awesome advice, I logged in and downloaded a statement and lo, found the sort code etc Grin. I have set up a standing order for a couple of pounds higher than this month's dd, to go out two days before it was due, on a monthly basis. And cancelled the existing dd.

Embarrassingly, I will confess to not having been checking my credit card statements. I do my current account regularly (like every couple of days - I use YNAB with a phone app, so I'm totally on top of current expenditure and budgeting...) but, erm, not so much with historical or seldom used credit cards... and this one has been carrying a huge balance for ever, and I need to figure out how to kill it. I'm going to pull up the spreadsheet links and have a look - I think it will probably be something I can just leave to run the course now (and I'm kicking myself for not having done it sooner). I'm keeping that card as I need to have a UK card for returning, but of course it's complicated by exchange rates etc. It's supposed to be the emergency card for flight costs if anything happens with the aged p's/ family. To send a slightly higher amount back to the UK to clear it would probably be more expensive than allowing the SO to clear it over time though?
But yeahhhhhhh. I should actually check my credit card statements. In both countries. I'm doing the ostrich thing as it's easier to not know...
YNAB calculates any 'new' spending on my forrin card, so it's easy for me to make those payments, but again, it's not dealing with the historical aspect of pre-existing balances. It's one of the things that has been on the to-do list for way too long - there are great ways to sort it in YNAB, but so far I've been more focused on sorting day to day budgeting.
That said - while I am actually on a roll - what would you deal with first, as you seem to be way better at this than I am?
Debt:
UK credit card debt
Forrin credit card debt
Line of Credit (this is linked to house, so entirely secure and a reasonably low rate, but much bigger balance - debt from kitchen reno when we moved in)
Student Loan debt

Saving:
One kid at uni now, two kids will be at uni in one year's time, and three kids will be at uni in three year's time... third kid has all the smarts but is physically disabled, so hampered in pt job earning potential...

All thoughts welcome, and apologies for essay!

TalkinPeece · 15/04/2018 20:51

Debt priority ...
Highest interest first ALWAYS
so clear the cards - so that your money is not making money for a bank.

Student loan : if its a UK one its income related so more a tax than a debt. Leave it alone for now.
Non UK ones - depends on the terms

Mortgage / line of credit : deal with that once the cards are long gone

supporting kids : clear debts first. Then allocate that monthly money to them.

Mamaryllis · 15/04/2018 21:23

More embarrassingly - I actually don't know what interest levels my cards are. Blush The UK one is a really old Virgin card so am sure it's high, but I don't think I can do anything about switching to a lower rate as I'm not in the country. Forrin cards are newer (I fell for the 'you need to build your own credit rating just in case anything happens to dh' spiel) but I will check... I don't think I had much choice as we're limited to what the bank will approve due to being, well, forrin. Grin
Not a UK student loan. That's paid off. Will check out the terms.

Thanks Talkin. It's way easier to focus when someone else is looking over your shoulder.

twinkledag · 16/04/2018 08:21

I've now done the standing order trick on all 3 of my cards - one for £200, one for £100 and one for £40. That's a tiny bit over the minimum payment.

All cards are on 0% but that won't last forever so aiming to just clear them ASAP.

Worked out how long it would take me to pay them all off if I threw £1000 at them every month. I'd be out of debt in less than 2 years! Wow! What motivation to keep plugging away and trying to save money to make over payments!

Aiming to at least overpay by £160 a month so that means £500 a month going to debts.

Aiming to save £500 a month for any emergencies/house purchases. If any emergencies/house purchases are not needed that month then will throw at the credit cards.

We can afford this. I wouldn't say comfortably but it would be manageable with a bit of work.

Feels good to have a plan.

TalkinPeece · 16/04/2018 20:54

twinkle
I LOVE your positive attitude
and yes, debt is manageable - you just have to stare it in the eye and deal with it.
I would honestly say to do £750 off the debts and £250 to savings
or regard the credit card "headroom" as savings while you clear down the borrowing.
THEN
when its all clear, throw that money into ISA and SIPP and all the other "sensible" things

mama
Next time any of the statements come, print them out and find out EXACTLY what you are paying and owing - it might not be as bad as you think Grin

Makingdinner · 17/04/2018 11:45

talkin thanks I know he won't give a shit and yes you're right it is all about me but we've had a shit few years so if I want to do something nice for myself then I bloody well will. It doesnt mean I won't get out of debt and I actually find that a really judgemental attitude to have. I am not in massive debt. I'm in a bit of debt which I've got a handle on. I'm over paying it massively and our financial situation will change for the better by a lot next September so the £100 or whatever i spend on a party is really not going to make the much difference for me personally. I'm not going into any more debt to do it so I dont see the problem. I might be in debt but my life doesn't have yo be totally joyless until I'm not.

I think I'm going to leave this thread now it clearly is not the place for me.

twinkledag · 17/04/2018 18:22

Walked into town and back again today instead of getting the bu. Saved me £3. Realised when I got there I got the dates wrong (am waiting for a savings account to mature). Instead of going and sitting in Costa I turned round and went straight back home again - via getting DS a bag of Quavers but I think that's 65p I don't mind spending! Went home and had lunch there Smile

Not bad to only spend 65p on a day off from work!

TalkinPeece · 17/04/2018 18:59

Well done twinkle
Exercise is good for you
Skipping coffees out is good for you
Time with DS is good for you
wins all round

Makingdinner
I'm sorry you do not feel you can stay on the thread.
And I do not advocate joyless
but helium balloons for a two year old are an expense that can be avoided while still bringing the joy of cake and ordinary balloons to the day.

Makingdinner · 17/04/2018 19:24

You basically said don't throw a party because it's a "frivolity" and "all about me".

And that I would never get out of debt. With all due respect you barely know anything about me except a rough idea of what I owe. I've already stated I'm overpaying and have it under control. But you've decided I won't get out of debt because I am throwing one party which in the grand scheme of things isn't costing me much.

Mamaryllis · 18/04/2018 00:55

I suspect it’s worse than I think, Talkin Blush I can’t make a definitive plan until we get our taxes filed - should be within the next week. We pay for someone else to do them because we have income from two countries and we have to include UK income here and pay tax on it. Dh’s Income has been a bit... unpredictable, so I’ve lost track of what to expect from the tax man. I had managed to sort it out so we just owed a couple of grand for the UK stuff, but I have a horrible feeling it might be double that this year. If not, I don’t have to dig deeper into the line of credit!!! Fingers crossed.

Mamaryllis · 18/04/2018 00:57

Twinkle, I parked outside the cafe today to wait while dd2 was at an appointment, but went for a walk instead. Go us Grin

Mummingainteasy · 18/04/2018 06:17

I'm also skipping the coffee shops! I usually meet my friends once a week at a Wetherspoons in town for breakfast and coffee but skipped it last week and am having them at mine for coffee this week instead! We usually call for a coffee before playgroup once a week too but I went straight to playgroup instead this week! That probably saves £10 a week which I could use to buy our tea for a couple of days!

Small steps!

twinkledag · 18/04/2018 10:12

Well done @Mummingainteasy and @Mamaryllis on the ☕️❌

Smile

I have to meet a friend today for lunch but will keep it cheap and cheerful, £5 is my maximum.

Mummingainteasy · 18/04/2018 16:12

You too twinkle well done for setting a budget! Hope you had a nice lunch!

I have an appointment in the city centre so I'm planning to take enough cash for what I need and keep my card away!!

twinkledag · 18/04/2018 20:44

Lunch cost me £3, we won't talk about the £5 afternoon snack I had Blush

twinkledag · 18/04/2018 20:44

Lunch cost me £3, we won't talk about the £5 afternoon snack I had Blush

twinkledag · 18/04/2018 20:44

Lunch cost me £3, we won't talk about the £5 afternoon snack I had Blush

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