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So.........as we are being discriminated against yet again......

66 replies

badelaide · 26/03/2007 21:28

for not being married, how does dp go about getting parental responsibility for our 2 older dcs?
I spose we have to go to a solicitor and pay heaps do we?

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zookeeper · 27/03/2007 14:38

I am well aware of my rights thank you Xenia

EllieK · 27/03/2007 15:56

PinkChick it doesn't really solve it no, in the event of anything happening to you, if DP does not have PR then it doesn't matter what your will says, it still has to be decided by a court. in reality they would be extremely unlikely to do anything other than what you wanted but for the sake of filling in a form (which doesn't cost anything), why risk it?

It also means that he can sign for hospital treatment, register them at schools etc, and only takes a few minutes!

we collected the forms from the court office, signed them, took them back with his birth certificate, and it was all done. got a letter in the post confirming his dad has PR for him.

Anna8888 · 27/03/2007 16:42

I remember my sister had a couple of chats with the vicar who recommended she and her husband read some Relate guide to marriage. It was OK as far as it went, but it wasn't nearly detailed enough, especially for a bi-national couple.

Judy1234 · 27/03/2007 16:53

Catholics do it better.

Anna8888 · 27/03/2007 17:58

Oh yeah?????????????

Sis is still married...

(sorry that was too easy but you gave it away)

Judy1234 · 27/03/2007 18:40

I was never married religiously. My marriage was annulled.

drosophila · 27/03/2007 18:51

I'm intrigued Xenia. Tell us more.

Judy1234 · 27/03/2007 19:14

I had to sign a confidentiality paper at Westminster Cathedral so I can't really. I could remarry again in a Catholic church. The children are not rendered illegitimate restrospectively because their legitimacy stems from civil, not church law. You can also get civil law annulments. I know people who have.

RubyRioja · 27/03/2007 19:17

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Judy1234 · 27/03/2007 19:23

Actuall there are more. I knew (not biblically) one man who had his first marriage annuled because he'd had damage to his penis damaged so couldn't have full sexual intercouse so when the relationship broke up they got a state/civil annulment not a divorce.

The Code of Canon law has the RC grounds
www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/__P3Z.HTM

Anna8888 · 27/03/2007 19:55

I can get my head around annullment for no sexual consummation whatever, and for bigamy. But I can't get my head around any other concept of annullment. Marriage is a legal contract and, to my mind, either you entered into that contract or you didn't.

But then, I am absolutely not religious and against most manifestations of religion other than the purely tribal.

moondog · 27/03/2007 19:56

And how exactly do you define tribal religion Anna?
Or tribes for that matter?

Anna8888 · 27/03/2007 19:59

Oh I think human beings are completely inherently tribal animals and like manifesting their belonging to one tribe or another, defending its virtues, wearing its emblems, fighting other tribes for natural resources, land etc.

Tribal manifestations of religion are those manifestations that do that and nothing else - ie like going to church at Christmas and singing carols with other people from your locality to promote good feeling in the neighbourhood.

moondog · 27/03/2007 20:00

Rightyo then.

drosophila · 27/03/2007 20:32

SO you can't tell us the ins and outs of your marriage breakup or just the reasons for annulment. I suppose they should be the same thing.

If memory serves me can't you get an annulment for epilepsy?

Judy1234 · 27/03/2007 21:30

d, no that's completely wrong. Annulment looks at the tike of the marriage. Irrelevant what happened after so if he beat you or had 100 affairs you don't get an annulment for example although you might get a civil divorce. Divorce looks at a break down of marriage later. Very different thing.

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