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Enabling DH's poor spending choices

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cappy123 · 19/07/2017 21:32

My DH often doesn't exercise judgement well when it comes to spending. A good idea turns quickly into a purchase and sometimes a subsequent purchase if the 1st item is unfit for purpose (because he buys rashly without checking requirements - we must have gotten through 4 kitchen bins in 4 years this way, the rest then get chucked). Or conversely he won't spend money when he should, so at the busiest time of my working year we moved house. A removal firm would have been worth their weight in gold and I was prepared to pay for one, especially having moved my dad in recent years. But DH insisted on moving us himself for our move. It took 6 weeks of runs in our small car, by the time the last item was in (3 bed house, garage, attic cellar etc). I was so upset and extremely stressed, not least because this then took up my my own significant extra time and effort. What I should have done is just pay for the removal firm.

Holidays are a sticking point. Generally I've paid for trips from savings as an adult before getting married. My husband however will buy / act first without adding up hidden costs, and I'm stressed and fed up experiencing the fallout from his actions. Either he won't take my views seriously, I'm not making myself heard enough or he'll get upset and only hear offense when I raise his irresponsibility.

This year he booked £200 cheap flights to France (family of 4 so £50 each) on the basis of a 10 euro a night 2 person caravan, planning to buy an additional tent for the teenagers once there. Not sounding like a holiday. Only after insisting on seeing the emails regarding this caravan and calling the site was it clear that this was all lost in translation. They were charging DH 10 euro to pitch up, not renting him a caravan, tent or other accommodation. Ended up in almost £1000 worth of airbnb accommodation with me picking up half the cost for something he committed to.

I told him today how surprised and unhappy I was with him banking on the caravan. I said that in my mind a trip to Europe for 4 is £100 a day minimum in my mind everything considered. If accommodation sounds too cheap it's probably not viable. All he could say is did I see his point of view with the emails when the woman gave the impression they had a caravan at that price. I said yes I see his view, but certainly don't share it. No pics, reservations, reviews, just a couple emails in broken English, which would not entice me to book flights as he did. We have another friend's child with us so feel especially responsible. What I should have done is reviewed accommodation and if we couldn't afford it cancel the trip and repay the other child's fare, would've been cheaper.

DH earns far more than me but has no savings. Even DSD said to me recently that if I hadn't come song they'd still be renting from his mother, in the flat above hers. He's already sorted out a second job to help pay for the expense. He's said that I can help him manage his money better, because I've reiterated it's not how much he has, but how he managed it. I've resisted because I'm his wife not his manager, but with a growing family me trusting him isn't enough. I'm thinking we both put aside money for savings defined for a purpose (house, holiday, mortgage overpayment, car etc), we already have put aside for bills and shopping and then literally put aside 'blow' money each every month. And I have to be watchful for not enabling/condoning poor spending choices. Hopefully that will reign in irresponsible spending.

What does anyone else do to ensure they're on a financial even keel on their marriage?

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DangerrmouseD · 19/07/2017 22:38

Hi,
My husband buys has a habit of buying things that aren't needed. He has seen that I'm sensible with money so we use his income for mortgages and bills and the rest left over he can fritter away. I use my income for everything else, shopping, holidays, house renovations etc.
I manage the money in the house this way I have full accountability and know where every penny is being spent.

I earn considerably more than hubby.

Works for us.

WinstonChurchill · 20/07/2017 08:42

On the whole I control the household income. Don't get me wrong, if the hubby wants something I don't normally say anything but he's always upfront about getting something before he makes the purchase these days and that's simply because I've made things clear in regards to incoming and outgoing cash flow. If we overspend in one area of our life, we must cut back elsewhere.

crashandburnt · 23/07/2017 20:41

My husband is useless too. And we often end up having conversations about the face "we" are crap with money. I'm not crap with money I'm just constantly bailing him out. He's also ever satisfied with what he has got and always wants something newer, shinier, flasher. It's a hangover from a childhood with middle class parents that wouldn't spend their money on anything nice for their children I think. I grew up in a working class house where we always tried to buy the best we could afford. These days for me that means I buy very little as I can't afford it.

He doesn't research anything properly and then comes to me wanting to know what I would do. It's exhausting as I wouldn't have bought any of it.

On the face of it we are relatively affluent. Behind closed doors however it is terribly stressful and we are riddled with (his) debt. Some now in my name because I can't risk him getting sued for the obligations he can't meet as our house (paid for by me but in joint names) has significant equity.

WinstonChurchill · 23/07/2017 21:00

@crashandburnt
That must be hard for you to deal with. Xx

LovelyBath77 · 24/07/2017 10:14

I suppose we kind of keep on as we were to start with, in that my DH is older and had bought a property before I met him. We meant to move but never did, and now find it is OK as the children get older (town centre flat). It is close to things which helps, and don't really miss the idea of a 'big family house' on the outskirts. So, we kind of split things were we have out own accounts and a shared card for house purchases which we both use. he pays the main bills and mortgage and I pay for the food, school dinners and children's expenses. I get PIP / ESA due to health reasons and pay across some of this each month towards bills etc. We had a shock a few years ago when he was made redundant and have since had a drop in income, so we have a budget now and this leaves us with roughly equal in spending money. We also have out own credit cards which we deal with separately. I find this works OK. Then we are both responsible and not one bailing the other out.

Spanneroo · 24/07/2017 10:47

Mine is like this too, but also has occasional periods of time where he won't spend money on anything at all, even if he really needs to (ie the last of his trousers now has a hole in the crotch, but he won't buy new ones because it's a 'waste' Confused)

The way we've managed it is that I've gone through our incomes and expenses with him. Then each month, a % of each of our wages goes into the joint account which covers rent, bills, food, family spending money (days out etc). What's left is split into standing orders which go into joint savings and personal savings. Whatever is left is for him to spend as he pleases.

We are trying to save for a house at the moment so actual personal spending money a month is very small - £50 each. Having it quite tight has actually really helped him to consider what he's spending. He's welcome to access his personal savings to increase his spending money if he wants but it's usually too much hassle, so he doesn't bother.

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