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Horrid Tax Credit Overpayment Experience

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taxcreditstress · 02/03/2017 21:50

I received a letter yesterday from a debt collection agency saying I owed a large sum in overpaid tax credits which I need to pay immediately. I completely shocked about this as the last time I heard from Tax Credits was around renewal time in June, when I returned my form. I had some overpayment from a previous year due to the nature of my work at the time, making it difficult to accurately predict my earnings (agency) and had understood that they were continuing taking back the overpayment by reducing this year's payments. The figure that the debt collection letter mentions was more than the amount I owed.

So this morning I called the Tax Credits overpayment line to find out what was going and I spoke with an operative who was abysmally unhelpful. When I told her that I couldn't understand what had happened she said that the debt had been passed to an agency because I hadn't responded to their letters in October and November. The problem is that I didn't receive any letters. I explained this and asked if she could now re-send me the letters so I could find out more and she refused and said that it was a matter for me to deal with via the postal service, not Tax Credits! I then asked her how I was supposed to work out what the overpayments were related to and she said that I was not allowed to contact Tax Credits anymore and that I could only contact the agency.

Throughout the call, this woman's manner was appalling, from the moment I mentioned I had received a letter from the collection agency. I was made to feel like I was the lowest of the low and that I was lying about not receiving the letters. Honestly, she was so rude that I made her give me the complaints address because I don't think that she should be able to speak to people like that. She had no compassion what so ever and to be honest, seemed to enjoy the power she had over the situation. I was a wreck by the time I put the phone down.

With no other option, I called the debt collection agency, but they were only able to tell me the amount I owed and had no further details, nor could give me a breakdown of the figures. This woman was actually sympathetic to my plight and said that it was ludicrous that Tax Credits wouldn't give me any information and told me to call them back and ask to speak to a manager. They have put my case on hold for 8 days. I am really scared about this. I have never had to deal with a debt collection agency before. Is this all going to ruin my credit rating?

To be honest, I was in quite an emotional state by this point. I didn't even feel like calling Tax Credits because of the woman I had first spoken to. It sounds ridiculous, but I was actually freaked out by the thought that I might call and end up with the same awful woman I had spoken to earlier. However, I forced myself to call but this time I opted for the normal helpline instead.

When I got through, I just asked for a balance statement which the woman told me and it transpired that half of the overpayment from this year? I can't understand how this could be the case as I had submitted my form with my correct salary details and it makes no sense how they could have overpaid me this year. I was only receiving a small amount of credits anyway and none of it adds up. The Tax Credits worker was confused by my file and said she couldn't work out why they didn't make a final decision on my Tax Credits for this year until December (another letter I have never received!) because I had got my renewal form in on time. She is now referring my case so that I can find out what is going on. For this much more pleasant woman, it was absolutely no problem to re-send me the letters I haven't received. In fact she did that almost immediately so at least within two weeks I will be a bit more enlightened. She was apologetic and said that this morning's woman was incorrect when she said that I couldn't contact Tax Credits and that of course I can call to get information about my balance etc.

Ultimately, I am left waiting for the re-sent letters to find out more of what is going on and then up to 3 months to find out information from the referral. I am really worried about the debt collection agency and what they will say about this time span when I call them back. Will they wait that long for me to start paying something back? I just wanted to know if anyone out there has had a similar problem with letters from Tax Credits they haven't received? I haven't moved house. I have not been aware of any other mail going astray. It doesn't make sense. I also wanted to write down somewhere that people who work for the Tax Credits overpayments line should not be allowed to treat members of the public so horridly. Thank goodness, I am actually in a good place generally but I still feel totally awful tonight. It has been an immensely stressful day. God help those poor people who are already at a low ebb and encounter a situation like this, it would push them over the edge. I wouldn't have ever predicted that I would have been sobbing down the phone to Tax Credits today, but that is what I was reduced to.

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SaltBae · 07/03/2017 11:42

The awful thing about tax credits is that if you change any of your details in the middle of the year you're almost guaranteed an overpayment.

It's utterly ludicrous and scary. I have about £900 worth of overpayments due to HMRC just because of changing my details (salary increase, different childcare provider, change of address). The woman on the phone admitted I had done everything right and informed them of changes in the time I should but it's their right to demand payment back. It's utterly fucked up.

taxcreditstress · 08/05/2017 20:27

Updating this in case anyone else has similar problems. That was a horribly long first post but I was going out of my mind with worry at the time. It took me two months of phone calls, a mandatory reconsideration and a letter of complaint, but finally I have had this mess sorted out. It was all because HMRC failed to process my annual review. One basic error. I wonder how many other people out there have been hounded by debt collection agencies due to this type of issue? Right up to two days before it was resolved, I was being threatened with legal action. I had letter after letter telling me I was outside the time to appeal and that I was entitled to nothing due to a 'change in circumstance' which never happened. I've received an apology and £100 of compensation which is a drop in the ocean. I am just so relieved it's all over.

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Note3 · 08/05/2017 20:43

Wow that sounds awful! I had to pay back an overpayment because the stupid twat on their end didn't update the change to childcare cost that I gave them. I admit I didn't notice it on subsequent paperwork but they send you six sides of drivel which blurs and I can't interpret half of it so I tend to give up.

I've learnt the hard way and now write to them with all info changes, get proof of postage and I have figures written clearly so I can quick check what they send back. I also save just over half everything they pay me as I am paranoid that they'll again demand money back. Currently they're paying me a much inflated amount as they've based this year's wages on last yrs maternity pay even though I told them in advance what this year's wages will be. Clearly they're going to demand a massive chunk back...old me wouldn't have given it a thought and the money would be long spent. Fortunately I'm more alert to their stunts though feel traumatised from dealing with it all!

Glad you got yours sorted and in your favour

m0therofdragons · 08/05/2017 22:53

We've got another £600 to pay back because they wouldn't stop paying us despite me telling them we weren't entitled anymore. They won't let me just pay it back though I have to wait for them to send shitty letters demanding a portion at a time and making out i misled them - I didn't. Wish we'd never claimed them.

bimbobaggins · 09/05/2017 14:21

That's awful mother, I've heard a few people say that they wished they hadn't claimed them because of the hassle and stress it ends up causing them. My circumstances have changed recently and I have written to tc wishing to end my claim but I'm dreading the fact it won't be as easy as that

m0therofdragons · 09/05/2017 16:49

I knew we'd owe so put it to one side but they're impossible to deal with.

user1495316635 · 21/05/2017 05:30

Hi....I'm actually worried sick, I renewed the other day & told the woman about an estimated income for my hubby who's self employed, she said there'd be some to pay back so I'm worried about the amount & also, what if I've been wrong in previous years & they stick that on too??? I have been shaking all night, what gets me is they are HMRC so at some point throughout the year they should know everyone's income & benefits people are on surely?? Why do they leave it up to the general public to provide figures that can obviously be wrong????

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