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HR related Sick Leave f**k up

31 replies

Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:19

on the 8th Dec got a sick not for 3 weeks.

came back to work this week on monday of this week

so
The sick note was signed on the 8th - this was a Friday.
week one was 11-15th Dec
week two was 18 -22nd Dec

Then we all had xmas week off 25-29th

Week three was 1st-5th January ( last week)

The confusion may arise becuase of xmas week. However I was certain only becuase the doctor specifically said to me that xmas is a stressful time anyway therefore he would give me an extra week after xmas.

Otherwise i would have had 2 weeks sick + xmas hols.

my boss says that last week isn't covered - well hes intimating rather than outright saying and adding "dont worry about it"

so ofcourse i am

can anyone help?

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Marina · 10/01/2007 16:21

GP? Will he not issue one retrospectively...especially if you make it quite clear that your lurvely boss is stressing you out more because of the ambiguity?

Ceebee74 · 10/01/2007 16:24

I have never come across a situation where a weeks holiday is bridged by one sick note IYSWIM - therefore a 3-week sicknote covers 3 consecutive weeks regardless of whether one of those is a 'holiday' week - as prevous poster, you will need to get a retrospective sicknote from GP for last week (most do it I believe)

HTH

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:24

yes marina doc will prolly help me out - just wanted to know about the situation before i go doesnt the note cover it though?

i mean or else i would have had 2 weeks sick ( on record) and the xmas hols everyone else gets

dont want 4 weeks on record!

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smittenkitten · 10/01/2007 16:31

sorry Custardo - the other posters are right - it's 3 weeks from the date of the sick note even if that coincides with holidays or a shut down. you will need to get a sick note for the first week in Jan.

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:44

right oh

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:44

thank you

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:48

will my records show 4 weeks sick even though xmas was in the middle?

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knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 16:52

Our hr department would take the line that you're either sick or you're not. You can't stop being sick for Christmas and then get sick again afterwards, that's taking the p*ss as far as they are concerned. You are not alone in trying this method to keep your sickness record to a mimimum though

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:55

oh crap.

fucked this up then

shit

shit

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knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 16:55

Surely if you stopped being sick at Christmas and the started again afterwards that would count as two episodes of sickness which to some employers is worse than one long bout of sickness.

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:56

so will i get my three xmas hols back then>?

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knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 16:56

Why is it a problem with the 4 week thing ?

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:57

so will i get my three xmas hols back then>?

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:57

so will i get my three xmas hols back then>?

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knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 16:58

I don't think you get your holidays back if for example you got flu over Xmas, it's just tough luck.

I say this as someone who routinely gets a bug of some sort over the Xmas break.

The sickpay guidelines/rules are there for those who genuinely need them not for people to play the system with.

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 16:58

wanted to keep sick record down. furute employers check last two years.

it kind of shackles me to this place of infernal misery for at least a year

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 17:00

i am not using my holidays and and a sick note.

if the sick note covers it - then i have three days holiday added to my holiday leave - which we can take at any time becuase we are multicultural and up to date here doncha know.

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knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 17:03

You do sound as though you are trying to play the system a bit and I'd therefore be well careful of trying to outsmart your employers, maximising your time off for minimum impact on your employment record.

Employers have started to refer people for "discussions" regarding sickness and have "return to work" interviews for just this reason.

ClosetSlob · 10/01/2007 17:04

if you are sick when you have booked holiday you are entitled to you holiday back.

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 17:05

yes i am trying to keep my sick leave down.

i was however sick.

if i am sick
i want my hols

will go to docs

thanks for putting me straight. it was the doctor who misled me with the "week after xmas comment"

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knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 17:12

You were either sick enough to be signed off work for 3 consecutive weeks or you weren't.

Are you saying that any employee who got sick over Xmas/ New Year should ensure that they get a sick note so that they can still have a day off later when they are fit and healthy ?

A future employer would surely be more put off by an employee who plays the system to maximise their own personal gain rather than someone who was genuinely sick for a 4 week period.

ClosetSlob · 10/01/2007 17:13

you are entitled to your holiday back.. you can't be sick and on holiday at the same time... you were sick, therefore you were not in a position to take your holiday.

knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 17:14

Aha, a booked holiday would be different to three bank holiday days. Perhaps you are talking about annual leave days instead of the three bank holiday days (25th/26th and 1st)

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Tortington · 10/01/2007 17:16

i think you aremisunderstanding

every employee gets a certain amount of annual leave a year.

for most people they save 3 days for over the festive period to celebrate xmas - this is done in most industries.

We are a very up to date on the ball company regarding equality and diversity issues.

the three days for some employees in most other companies are holidays which MUST be taken over xmas. there is no choice.

I have a choice.

your right - i was either sick or i wasn't

i was

therefore where other people took their annual leave allowence
i did not

therefore i am owed my annual leave allowence

the three days everyone else took off for xmas

i didn't

i was sick
my sick note said so

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knittingtinsel · 10/01/2007 17:16

Which 3 days were you talking about ?