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A simple pension where I can pay in £50 a month - is there such a thing?

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thekitchensink2 · 22/10/2015 08:26

I don't have any sort of pension at all and have decided that something, however little, is better than nothing. I can commit £50 a month for now, until I qualify (am currently a full time student) and hopefully get a job!

I want something simple to understand and operate that I can open online.

Is there such a thing, or would I be laughed out of the bank website?

Thanks Smile

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specialsubject · 22/10/2015 11:54

there are plenty of them - you want a simple stakeholder. Look for low charges and online access. I have one such pension with Aviva but there are loads of others.

at the moment the government will top up what you put in by 20%, speak to the pension people to ask about making this happen. Even if you earn zero, you can put in £2880 per year and the government turns it into £3600. But £50 a month is still a good start and it has a long time to grow.

allwineismine · 22/10/2015 11:59

There are loads out there, like pp said, a simple stakeholder could be an option, with investments where you only pay annual management charges on the funds, no silly admin charges. Every pension provider has them. I can guarantee nobody will laugh at you. If anything, is admirable that you're planning for the future when you don't have a lot of cash to spare!

PennyPants · 23/10/2015 09:50

Yes there is I have one too. The returns aren't looking great but I also have a couple of work pensions and other investments. So it is only one part of the pension pot and at the time I started it £50 was all I could spare too. Better to do something like you say.

whooshbangprettycolours · 23/10/2015 10:35

STAKEHOLDER PENSIONS ARE EXPENSIVE !

Please shop around. Admin fees can be cheaper than the 1.5% fee charged on a stakeholder. I have a 0.25% admin fee on the pensions I sell, then about 0.32% on the funds. MUCH MUCH less. Look at TOTAL cost.

Stakeholders are out of date after 2013 changes.

whooshbangprettycolours · 23/10/2015 10:36

Stakeholders USED to be 1% new ones are 1.5% for the first 10 years - before anyone tells me theirs isn't Grin

MoriartyIsMyAngel · 23/10/2015 11:18

If stakeholders are expensive, what are the other options? And will the Government still top up on the other kinds? (I'm 36 and just starting to think about these things - literally just started to think about it when I clicked on this thread!)

allwineismine · 23/10/2015 12:17

You could also have a personal pension. You will get the 20% top up on your contributions up to £40,000 per year (or £10,000 if you've already accessed any of your plans flexibly, which won't be the case when you're only 30something).
It definitely pays off to shop around but I would also look for "hidden" charges, for example admin fees seem low but they charge you a fortune if you want to switch funds. You can also transfer from one provider to another if you're unhappy anyway, so I would also check for any penalties/exit charges.

specialsubject · 23/10/2015 17:28

wowser, that is a huge charge! Thanks for flagging that up.

the charge on my stakeholder has actually dropped now but that's because there's a certain amount in it and I've had it more than 10 years. The OP won't be able to pay in that much on a student income.

MoriartyIsMyAngel · 23/10/2015 17:50

Seen anything suitable for us yet OP? Grin

I saw this thread on MSE, same topic forums.moneysavingexpert.com/showthread.php?t=5344047&page=2

whooshbangprettycolours · 23/10/2015 20:13

A bog standard personal pension is as good as anything. The stakeholder business is a red herring now (they were OK, but the market has moved on for new contracts). If I had to put a small amount of money away, without much understanding (without wishing to be rude), Royal London would catch my eye. Their 'Governed' range is good. I have to caveat that with, I'm an adviser and so the charges I see are possibly different to joe public, but I can set these up with a 0.4% charge, all in. They manage the funds so 'advice' is included.

Pensions are in a real purple patch, tax beneficial, flexible, protected... all good stuff. You can't rely on the state making provision much beyond penury.

whooshbangprettycolours · 23/10/2015 20:15

SIPP's are also a bit passé (they were quite the thing about 7 years ago). MOST people don't need them, bog standard I think covers >99% of the market.

curiousc88t · 23/10/2015 23:46

What about ISAs ?

Tax free

Accessible money

thekitchensink2 · 24/10/2015 07:51

I have had such a hectic couple of days and didn't think I would even get any responses! Thank you so much - it's brilliant to know that I do have options and that it's not such an unusual thing to ask! Going to have a good research over the weekend and see what I find. Honestly I want to try and find a fee-free one though not sure if that's even possible!!

Something else I thought of - can you buy stocks and shares with a similarly low level of cash? You know, nothing I would be too gutted by losing but still with the fun of seeing if things do go up in value?! Is it possible to do that?!

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thekitchensink2 · 24/10/2015 07:52

whoosh - not rude at all Smile Thank you for the advice!

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thekitchensink2 · 24/10/2015 07:53

I have to say, "the government pays 20% on top" really makes me laugh and go Hmm at the same time, because they tax you straight back again once you receive it, right?! What's that all about!

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thekitchensink2 · 24/10/2015 08:00

That MSE thread is interesting Moriarty, if only for the other posters' responses! "£25 isn't enough! You should be investing £300 a month!" Well yes, in an ideal world! Hmm This thread has been far more helpful and no one has said "don't even bother!" like they did on MSE. Obviously once I am employed I will be increasing contributions appropriately but for now surely something is better than nothing. Smile

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allwineismine · 24/10/2015 08:15

Regarding the 20% top up and tax deductions - you are entitled to 25% tax free lump sum on your pension, so it actually isn't as simple as that.

yeOldeTrout · 24/10/2015 08:32

because they tax you straight back again once you receive it, right?! What's that all about!

If you have a low total income from pensions, perhaps because of taking it out slowly you won't get taxed at all much less at a full 20%.

I thought it was a jolly good deal I put in £100 & govt added £25 of govt money, because I wasn't earning. Bit of a no-brainer.

How old are you, OP?

specialsubject · 24/10/2015 11:48

stocks and shares ISAs are definitely worth a look, again thinking very long term. Again, look hard at charges.

cash ISAs are now bordering on not worth it - if you earn under £15,600 a year you don't pay tax on savings anyway, and next year the first £1000 of savings interest will be tax free for anyone. Cash ISA rates are pitiful so most can do better in an interest-paying current account.

but for the OP and long-term investment (not savings) it is a pension or stocks and shares in some form, I think.

thekitchensink2 · 24/10/2015 18:22

I'm nearly 33 Trout! I have nothing in the way of an existing pension at all, at all.

DH has about 20k apparently in a pension, but it was invested before we met, and I am not entirely sure things will last, so starting to think about protecting myself and setting things up for the future.

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Allgunsblazing · 24/10/2015 19:24

OP, I have an investment ISA with Sheffield Mutual. What that means is that I set up a direct debit for an amount I can afford to lose. What Sheffield Mutual does for me is invest my money in shares. It is a high risk investment, in other words it could perform so bad I could be left without a penny, equally, I could get a modest profit at the end of the year.
I can thoroughly recommend them: no jargon, real people at the end of the phone, it is a small business and their performance has been constantly good in the past few years.
What are you studying? I am only asking because if it is the NHS, if you are on the bank you can actually join the scheme whilst you're studying. So a few shifts here and there would give you access to a quite good pension.

howtorebuild · 24/10/2015 19:34

I think the is a option is better, you can access for a rainy day then.

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