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WWYD- take the money or buy the house?

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VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 18:53

My life feels like the most important game of monopoly at the minute.

I've inherited a third of a house which I've just had valued today at 140-145k. I've also inherited 20k cash.

So I have the choice of taking the cash and we put the property on the market and I get a third of the sales figure minus estate agent costs.

Or I offer the other parties 90k for their shares. Give them the 20k cash and get a mortgage for 70k.

Mortgage repayments would be approx 400-430 a month. We could rent the house out for £550 and that's priced to rent and I think it would rent out quickly from the location. I actually know two people who have seriously said they want to rent it if I buy it.

So I'm left with approx £100-150 a month "profit" out of which I'd have to pay landlord insurance, building insurance, tax and put anything left over to one side for repairs.

We wouldn't use a letting agent and on the plus side dh is very handy so apart from gas and elec he could fix stuff that went wrong. We'd have to get gas certificates done for the house as well prior to renting.

Doesn't really leave a lot and to be honest I am looking at it more long term. In 20 years the mortgage would be paid off and the money would then be profit apart from repairs and tax. I'd be 57yo then and I view it as a pension. I am going to get an ok nhs pension but not till I'm 67 and I don't think I can do my job till 67. So its kind of my one opportunity to possibly retire early.

But I worry about repair costs, tennants not paying, me being out of pocket if they don't pay rent or I can't rent it out for periods.

There's also the fact that although we're currently ok off financially we're not rolling in it and having a bit of extra money in the bank would be really good. I've currently got about 4k savings, dh has a bit more and we have a tiny (30k) mortgage. But we do live quite frugally, don't go out for meals, I rarely buy clothes, I save £100 a month but apart from that I spend all my wages. Dh manages to save a bit more.

It would be nice to think we could maybe take the caravan to France instead of to Yorkshire. Not going mad, but just little things like that. Try and save as much of the capital as possible in the best account I could find and not touch much of it. I'm fairly confident that in 20 years time I could still have at least 50k of it untouched.....but 50k capital isn't going to let me retire ten years early.

So live for the moment and enjoy life a bit more or be really sensible and spend the next 20 years scrimping for a longer term gain? Dh is 50yo by the way and doesn't have a private pension.

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supadupapupascupa · 07/05/2014 19:00

i think i would be tempted to sell, pay off the £30k on our house, and then invest the rest in a smaller property to rent out.
But only because you suggest that things are a bit tight. You will have to foot all the bills at some point, it's not worth the hassle or worry!

ThePrisonerOfAzkaban · 07/05/2014 19:00

Sell the house, find something that's not much to do a buy to let, if you get the right house you will earn the same amount back, but the mortgage will.be paid off quicker.

TalkinPeace · 07/05/2014 19:21

what do the other two owners want to do?
how near to you is it to manage as a rent out?

VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 19:22

I don't think I'd consider buying another house instead. I'd be looking at 110k for a smaller house in a worse part of town. Plus I wouldn't know the house and it might come with problems. With this house its been well maintained and I trust its ok.

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VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 19:22

Its only a few miles away.

The other two owners want to sell and would happily sell to me as they want rid of it ASAP.

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TalkinPeace · 07/05/2014 19:28

If they really want to sell to you and you are happy to manage it, why not.
You can always sell it in a year or three if it does not pan out.

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VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 19:37

Does anyone know if I'd have to pay stamp duty if I buy the other two out?

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TalkinPeace · 07/05/2014 19:38

Stamp duty is nil up to £125,000 : which is more than the 2/3 you are buying
and is 1% up to £250 k
you should be clear

VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 19:39

I wasn't sure if they'd look at the whole value of the house or just the two thirds I'm actually buying.

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AndIFeedEmGunpowder · 07/05/2014 19:40

I'd buy them out too. You don't have debts and you can always sell as Talkinpeace says. Don't know about the stamp duty.

TalkinPeace · 07/05/2014 19:43

nope, its the value of the transaction (according to my Oh so interesting accounting link)

VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 19:52

I know I can always sell but then I'd have 100% of estate agent fees and solicitor costs instead of a third.

Cant believe how much it is, we're looking at 3k for everything!

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VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 19:52

But good to know about the no stamp duty, thanks TalkinPeace.

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TalkinPeace · 07/05/2014 19:54

Estate Agent Fees
Depends on the house and stuff - I sold a house but putting "for sale" on a sheet of A4 in the window with my mobile number!
And yes, you would incur all of them, but you'd also have the income.
Could you agree with the other two to pay them their shares less £1750 each to cover your future legal bills?

VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 20:00

Yes I think I could negotiate a bit off the price to reflect there would be no estate agent fee.

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Suttonmum1 · 07/05/2014 20:00

buy it, rent it out. Get a mortgage you can overpay on and try to pay it off ASAP, then you have more leeway for retiring early and using the rent to replace income.

LillianGish · 07/05/2014 20:02

But I worry about repair costs, tennants not paying, me being out of pocket if they don't pay rent or I can't rent it out for periods. I think if money is tight then that is a consideration. I'd be tempted to pay of your own mortgage and if you want a buy to let then buy something smaller - though I don't think it's always the cash cow it's made out to be and it can be a headache (speaking from experience).

VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 20:56

Would we have to pay solicitor fees to get the house put in my name or can we just change the name on the deeds with the land registry?

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TalkinPeace · 07/05/2014 20:58

best to get a solicitor : but a tame one should do it for a couple of hundred quid : to match the probate registers

supadupapupascupa · 07/05/2014 21:01

Viva, you live not far from me. I still stand by what I said about getting something smaller with what's left. Consider the outskirts of the city - the villages. Plenty of good solid but cheaper property, much better than that in the city. I know because we moved to the south east of the city after looking everywhere :-D. Lovely problem to have by the way, you must be excited!

VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 21:01

I was hoping/thinking it might be a bit cheaper than the normal solicitor costs as we wouldn't need stuff like land searches doing.

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VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 21:05

Supa, I think one of the problems is is that I love the house. Which I know I should be looking at it from an investment point of view and not with my heart.

But honestly in 20 years I could see me retiring. Downsizing and Moving to this house in the city, pottering into the historic quarter, etc. selling my house in the village to fund this or even renting the bigger village house out. It would be my ideal downsize, retirement house and added to which the benefit of saving a lot of money on estate agent fees, solicitor, stamp duty.

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supadupapupascupa · 07/05/2014 21:06

ah well you've answered your own question then. If you're taking uphill I can't see you would EVER be without rent to be honest :-)

VivaLeBeaver · 07/05/2014 21:09

Its in one of the prime uphill streets. The estate agents were quite blown away with it today and said its a really special house and I think it is. Like you say I know I'd be able to rent it out easily. Though there's always the chance I get stuck with an idiot who doesn't pay and have a lengthy fight to evict.

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