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Seller won't consider our market value offer - next move? Sorry long.

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Jbck · 07/07/2006 21:46

We've offered on a house we're really keen on, sellers did have a buyer but they moved the entry date 15 days hence & buyer put house back on market. He is obviously a little daft, who'd put themselves through all that hassle for a fortnight. It's a private sale & he's literally only got a sign outside his house which isn't on a through road or anything so he'll be relying on word of mouth really or luck.
We made him an offer based on the most recent house sales prices in the street 2 houses identical to his & one a slightly different style but basically same 4 bed det'd modern villa, all since February this year. One of them was actually next door to him & we offered the same as that achieved in February. One house which got an extra 5K has a frontage/drive & rear garden which are almost double the length of his so I figure that's why they got the extra money.
Basically he seems to have plucked a figure from mid-air & believes he can get it, he has comitted to a new house & entry date is end of this month. He has accepted he will need to bridge but thinks buyers should fund this. He made this perfectly clear to us which I poopooed saying our offer would be at market value which it is.
We made our best offer, rather than messing him about negotiating because of his situation, we've sold & our buyers are renting, our mortgage agreed in principle so we're a really good bet but he won't consider us. He's of the opinion that his house is that much better than average, that he deserves more. It's 10 years old with all the original fitments, kitchen etc & nothing that special in the first place.
I'm tempted to let him stew & say bugger it but we really like the house. We made a verbal offer to him as he's no estate agent involved but I do have his solicitors details, does anyone think it's worthwhile putting our offer in writing to them, emphasising how strong our position is & stating it's on the table till say 1st of August & see if they can try to persuade him?
I'm worried it'll alienate him & he'll accept any offer bar ours then but I just want to make sure it's on the table, as they'll be pushing him as will his bank as his bridging is currently open-ended which is really frowned upon by his bank he says.
He already told us he'd had another bid & he'd weigh up the 2 offers & respective entry dates but this other bid has strangely failed to materialise.
Any ideas suggestions gratefully received. Apologies for length & if you're still with me thanks for taking time out of your day

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Jbck · 07/07/2006 21:48

Sorry should say seller put house back on. Original offer he'd had was higher than ours but exceptional going by other prices & I wonder if they were actually genuine when they let him pull out without any argument. Possibly they realised they'd been a bit over zealous & decided they didn't want to pay that much & it gave them the ideal chance to back out, as he'd placed so much 'emphasis on entry date', his words.

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Kaz33 · 07/07/2006 21:53

At the end of the day it is his house and he can do what he wants - he can ask for an inflated price. It is totally unheard of to ask your buyer to fund your bridging loan and no one is going to agree to that.

I would write to him (not his solicitor) a very polite letter, say how much you love his house and would like to buy it. XXXXX is the price you can pay, emphasise that you can move quickly but as you have a buyer for your house cannot delay indefinitely. If you want mention that you have offered him the best price you can afford and are not in a position to fund his bridging loan. Also you could mention the research you have done of other houses in the street and therefore you think that XXXX is a fair price.

Unfortunately then you have to wait.

If you know where you want to live, do a leaflet drop of other houses saying you are looking to buy in the area. Maybe someone who has not yet put house in market will bite...

Good luck.

nicnack2 · 07/07/2006 21:54

i wwould put an offer into the solictor as they maybe able to make sense to this man. sounds a bit potty to me. Buyers funding sellers bridging loan!!!!. Is this down south or soctland?

Kaz33 · 07/07/2006 21:57

IME the solictors will just pass the letter on to the seller - most solicitors just effect the transaction, they won't spend time explaining all this to the seller.

nicnack2 · 07/07/2006 22:00

maybe but in scotland you have to have a solictor to do the offers etc therefore they will advise both buyer and seller. That why i sugest the solictor.

nicnack2 · 07/07/2006 22:03

sorry didnt explain properly, it is solictors in scotland that sell property not estate agent though they can be afflicated to solictors office. if that makes sense

YellowFeathers · 07/07/2006 22:06

I wouldn't bother with the Solicitor tbh, like Kaz33 said they will just pass it on.

I'd write a letter with your offer on to the seller. That way it refreshes his memory of what you have offered and the position you are in, which btw is very good. Not only that it makes you look a bit more serious and like you want to do things right IYSWIM.

I'm sure he'll see sense.

nooka · 07/07/2006 22:16

I think that you are letting yourself in for a lot of stress if you pursue this. You have already discovered he has some fairly odd views about the sale, and you may find that if you experience any problems later on that he will be completely unreasonable. I don't think that you have anything to lose by putting your offer in writing, but I'm really not sure that pursuing this is going to give you anything other than heartache.

Jbck · 08/07/2006 10:25

Thanks folks, we're in Scotland so really we should have just bypassed him to start with and gone straight to solicitor, but because he didn't have an EA we weren't sure where to go with it.
I think he may be a bit of hassle but to be honest there are no other houses up for sale in the area that we fancy, have considered leafleting too.
I'm going to write to him, through our solicitor, plus copy to his solicitor, setting out our reasons for offer & reiterating our position. We'll put a deadline on offer to see if it forces his hand. In Scotland his solicitor will advise him so it may put us in a better position.
Any other thoughts & suggestions still considered.

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