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Incapacity benefit...........Does it entitle you to housing and council tax benefit ?

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nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:10

Right bit long winded but basically dp's g.p will not sign him off as fit for work as in his opinion he isn't and he can't see him ever being.

Dp the place he worked before to see of they could give him a job and they said possibly, but g.p says he still wouldn't sign as fit as in his opinion dp couldn't do the job without doing more damage.

So am trying not to panic but not getting very far.

G.p said he is going to advise current company medically dismiss dp and that he then should apply for incapacity benefit. Only thing is, no where on the internet can I find that it says we would get our rent and council tax paid. There is no way we could afford to pay it as all we'd be getting is CTC and the Incapacity which is either £59 or £77 a week.

Incapacity is counted as income when applying for tax credits so am panicking that if we do have to go down this route we are really in the shit.

All the sites just say if your on low income you might be entitled but then list, income support, DLA, and other benefits as ones allowing you to get HB but not Incapaxcity.

Am confused.

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nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:17

Typical, as soon as I post I find the answer.

I think we would be entitled.

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LucyJones · 20/06/2006 19:19

If he couldn't work and was at home on incapacity benefit surely you would be able to work and therefore cove rent and council tax? What is his incapacity?

LucyJones · 20/06/2006 19:20

ie, does is incapacity mean he can't be a SAHD?

Cod · 20/06/2006 19:20

whats wrong wiht him

zippitippitoes · 20/06/2006 19:21

that's what i was thinking a great opportunity to work yourself and him SAHD

Katemum · 20/06/2006 19:23

Incapacity benefit is not an income related benefit. you would have to apply for council tax and housing benefit and it would be assessed on the level of income that the household has.

nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:29

He has severe osteoarthritis in his kness and spine, according to what ever sort of doc it is that deals with that, not his g.p.

Yes i could go and work but i am suposed to be going back to college full time in sept.

IMO i'd be better going to college and uni, else the only job i could get won't pay peanuts anyway.

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Cod · 20/06/2006 19:29

oh god
is he in alot fo pain>

BROWNY · 20/06/2006 19:30

sorry I can't help nutcracker, but just bumping up for you! Hopefully someone will be able to help.

nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:31

Yes has been for years tbh but i always assumed he was exagerating as men do but he is on Tramadol painkillers and is actually taking them and he never ever takes painkillers unless he feels bad.

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LucyJones · 20/06/2006 19:31

I don't know the ins and outs of it all legally iyswim but I doubt you would get your rent and council tax paid if you were at college or university. Would you be eligible for a grant for that and would that pay the rent? Could he do a job that didn't involve using his knees and back like a sedentaryt office job maybe? Or would the job he has give him an early pension? Think you need to go to the CAB but I really don't see them paying for all that when you could work yourself.

nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:32

He's also up and down all bloody night as he can't sleep with the pain, which is bloody irritating. Am, not good at sympathy with men Grin

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nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:34

I don't think we;d get the rent or ct paid if i were at uni no as i've just added up what our income would be with me on a bursary and we could afford the rent to that is fine, fair enough. But whilst at college for a year first I don't get any bursary or anything so there is no way our income could cover the rent etc.

So basically we'd only need help with rent etc for a year.

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nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:34

I don't think we;d get the rent or ct paid if i were at uni no as i've just added up what our income would be with me on a bursary and we could afford the rent to that is fine, fair enough. But whilst at college for a year first I don't get any bursary or anything so there is no way our income could cover the rent etc.

So basically we'd only need help with rent etc for a year.

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nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:35

oops

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nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:36

Regarding office jobs, yep he could apply but he has no experiance of that sort of job at all as he has always done manual work and he is nearly 50.

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zippitippitoes · 20/06/2006 19:40

maybe \link{http://www.learndirect.co.uk/\ learndirect would help}

and you work this year while he sorts that out and then start your course the next year

nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:43

Yep so i have to put my life on hold again

Can i just say because i detect a bit of an 'you just don't wanna work' undertone going on, that dp did try and go back to work, i mean he actually went back and they sent him back home, refused to have him there point blank, and that he has never been out of work since age 17 apart from 3mths when he was made redundant.
It's the g.p that is refusing to let him work.

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nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:44

We could do that zippi but it would be the same situation as we'd still be on low income whilst he was doing whatever at learn direct.

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beckybrastraps · 20/06/2006 19:47

LucyJones - EVERYTHING involves your back! Even sitting down.

Nutcracker - I hope you can get it sorted.

Nemo1977 · 20/06/2006 19:47

IF your dh isnt working and you dont then you shouold be entitled to council tax and rent paying. IT will also be worth applying for dla if the dr is saying he will never be fit enough to work..although not sure if you have to have been out of work 6mths before you start recieving it.

charliecat · 20/06/2006 19:49

ask on Moneysavingexpert Nutty they seem to be up on things like this.

puff · 20/06/2006 19:50

nutty, the condition he has is serious. This must be very stressful for you Sad.

There must be some sort of advice line for people who may have to claim incapacity benefit - have you done an internet search?

nutcracker · 20/06/2006 19:50

The g.p did mention DLA Nemo but I don't know enough about that to know if he'd be eligible.

Just to give you an idea of how bad his back is he was looking for new trainers without laces today because he cannot bend down far enough to tie laces up without being in alot of pain.

I am in no doubt that the job he was doing has made his problems alot worse as he was lifting kegs of beer. etc.

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Katemum · 20/06/2006 19:51

Nutcracker you really need some help from someone who knows what the rules and rates are for each benefit. Welfare Rights would be a good place to try. You need to tell them what you would have coming in to the household and they should be able to tell you what you could be entitled to.
I am thinking that maybe you would be entitled to Incapacity Benefit topped up with Income Support and some housing and council tax benefit but I do not know your full circumstances and my benefit knowledge is about 7 years out of date.

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