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What should I do......... long, apols

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ggglimpopo · 20/03/2006 08:27

I divorced my husband when he was unfaithful to me when our fourth (planned!) child was months old. He was very unhappy about being divorced but did come with me to France to help me settle the children in. All went ok for the first year or so.

Then he discovered the joys of batchelorhood - wine women and song, big time. And stopped paying child support or seeing/contacting the kids. He would ring me to boast of his latest conquest(s) but not ask or want to talk to the kids....When I remarried the calls calmed down; there had been weeks when he would ring daily, sometimes very late at night.

When I filled in my French tax return I stated that I had received no child support. To support this I had to press charges against him, see a judge, engage a lawyer etc etc.

The wheels of French justice have turned now and the final decision is that it is too difficult to get money from him and that, and I quote " he is not not paying child support intentionally!!" WTF? Oh, and because he said he couldn't afford a translator, the statement was considered to be legally not of good standing. The UK refused to co operate "against a British citizen". To stop me having a claim against him, he gleefully gave up work and told me this was why he was doing so.

He is living in Portugal with a girlfriend, in a smart Algarve appartment. He is a trustafarian and has over a dozen houses in the north of England from which he receives a revenue. I understand that he has started up a business in Portugal. He drives a new four by four and has a top of the range BMW motor bike. The last time he was here he spent his time with the children dragging them round clothes shops, frantically buying presents for his girlfriend.

He has not seen the children since 2002. He has not paid child support since then. He says it is my fault that he does not see the kids as he cannot afford a hotel room in Bordeaux and I am obviously uncaring as if I really wanted him to see his children, I would offer him a room in my house.

He owes about £20,000 in unpaid child support and is laughing, having pissed on us from a great height. He says if I hadn't divorced him, life would be hunky dory for all of us, so again, it is my fault he does not pay a penny towards their care.

What can/should I do? France has been a dead loss. Do I find a Portuguese/French speaking lawyer? UK lawyer living in Portugal? Portuguese lawyer here in Bordeaux?

Please, does anyone have any ideas. It is all so unfair.

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Tinker · 20/03/2006 16:27

Agree with Freckle really. Am in a similarish situation (although only one child involved and some contact and support - measly token amount). I do understand all teh "why let him get away with arguments" but soemtimes I think life is more serene if you drop it - if you can afford to. You win teh moral high ground.

As a revenge, is he paying all teh tax he should? Shop him if not.

ggglimpopo · 20/03/2006 16:28

Done that Tinker!

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Tinker · 20/03/2006 16:29

Good. Was going to tell you to CAT me if you hadn't.

Blackduck · 20/03/2006 16:30

Tinker - love it re the Tax!!

ggg - never been in your situation, but, yes, must be really weird to think I had children by this man, and then he does this......
The friend I mentioned - her ex has actually accused her of being a bad mother and threatened to call the social services - I find it all Shock

WideWebWitch · 20/03/2006 16:34

ggg, having read more and thought about this I think Freckle is probably right. I think you could write him a letter telling him, calmly, that you will be cutting all contact and why, and then just get on with your life. I KNOW how annoying it must be (I still smart sometimes from things that happened to me years ago, I do know it's easier said than done to just drop it) but it probably is the path that will cause you the least stress and piss him off the most, which would be a pleasing side effect. You want to write a letter that pisses him off, really, really, pisses him off because it is right and calm and truthful but doesn't allow any response. You're a writer, write a fantastic letter, designed to get to him, really get to him. And tell him you are changing your numbers, that any correspondence from him will be returned unread (and make sure it is) and then close the door on the shit and get on with being happy with your lovely sounding dh.

CarolinaMoon · 20/03/2006 16:41

did you get divorced in the UK ggg?

Blackduck · 20/03/2006 16:41

www - wise words...

jmg1 · 20/03/2006 16:44

I don't really know what to say.

If you are both UK citizen's and he has assets in the UK I would have thought the UK courts would be you best bet.

From what I have heard people very rarely sue in Portugal becuase of the time and hassle in doing so. Think French justice system and then slow it down + mix in some more beauracracy!

Some people are selfish beyond belief!

moondog · 20/03/2006 16:46

Christ,what a wanker!!!!
How do these people sleep at night??
Actually unless they're psycho[aths,I can't believe that they do. I suspect he does a lot of late night crying when he's pissed.

I think WWW speaks some wise words. Leave it. He is enjoying riling you.Don't let him.By all accounts,you have a lovely new life,probably one that is better than you (or he)ever even envisaged you having.

Your children will be grown ups soon.
He will get his comeuppance.

So sorry,you're going through this ggg. Sad
A propos of nothing,was thinking about you today while walking to school and of how lovely you are.

Have a happy life.
That is the best revenge of all.

jmg1 · 20/03/2006 17:00

I also agree with www and moondog's points.

This prick is getting off on your suffering + the hassle and stress of fighting him for however long it may take, with no guarantee of what the end result would be.

I can't see this guy ever making anything easy for you. I think you have to ask yourself is it worth the hassle?

PeachyClair · 20/03/2006 17:32

goodness, you must be some woman that this man thinks so much of you! because I am pretty sure he wouldn't be acting like a spoiled child (which is what this is- toys out of pram etc) if he wasn't still smitten.

Does he not have any family- esp. parents- who could do something? If my boys treated their kids like this, they'd be living in Hell for a very long time. They'd certainly see any trust funds (trust fund! Ha! in this family!) cut right off.

I think cutting contact might be the only way, he may come to you once it's the only way to see you (kinda pay per view with CSA Wink) or he may bugger off, in which case I'm not sure yu've lost anything.

I'd be Angry though, I feel for you!

CarolinaMoon · 20/03/2006 18:24

ok, apparently the legal position is you should be able to claim for maintenance through the UK courts.

If you want, email me at [email protected] and I can put you in touch with a lawyer who could help, if you don't know one already.

ggglimpopo · 22/03/2006 13:32

Have had long talk with dh about this; we have written to the judge saying how disappointed we are that France literally can't be bothered to take this further, when it was the judge himself (who called xh "un con" which means cnt...Shock), when I said I didn't really want to go through the angst and hassle and expense of pressing charges, who said that my children had the right to be supported by their father. I will keep to the French legal system which seems the path of least expense and hassle for me. Or, to be honest, dh wrote and I fell asleep, playing tetris, at my desk.....

We have a meeting tonight with my hardnosed penal lawyer - who is just like Hannibal Lecteur in that his office is exquisite and he dresses like HL, pre-prison - and he will go for appeal.

If the appeal falls through I will drop it all.
Change my phone number, offer the kids the choice of taking my maiden name and pretend he never existed.

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Blackduck · 22/03/2006 13:43

ggg - sound slike a good solution...good luck with it all...and have a happy life...

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