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Big blackhole of debt & mortgage worries

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rainonme · 15/08/2012 08:30

Firstly I am a regular wwho has name changed.

Not sure where to start....

DH & I have massive debts (I class it as both of coz we are married although it is mostly in DHs name). We are both self-employed, DH is a company director. When things were going well for the businesses we had a few loans credit cards which got racked up when we moved house & got married. The intention was to pay them all off within 12 months. Then we had DD, and I subsequently got diagnosed with a long term illness just as the 'credit crunch' hit, DH had to take time off to look after me & a young baby & then subsequently had a breakdown. The interest on the credit cards was then pretty much doubled (if not trippled) at this time & the repayments were (and are still are) crippling. (We actually didn't have PPI which in this case could have been handy!!)

We have two mortgages, one for our house & one buy-to-let (which has been empty for about 2 years :(). We always make sure the mortgages are paid so currently have no arrears on either, but the credit card repayments are in default & things are getting pretty nasty. DH lost his biggest contract and his business income dropped massively last Novemeber. DH has spoken to all the companies and explained that basically he is currently unable to draw a wage from his company, (well, not enough to cover everything) and they insist that there is nothing they can do (or are willing to do) to help out. We have offered all sorts of solutions & they simply aren't interested. We asked for a payment holiday from the mortgage so we could get the CCs back on track, but it was declined as they have too many people currently applying.

Yesterday our mortgage company (for our home) informed us that they are getting rid of their interest only mortgages & we will probably end up on full repayment, this will double our mortgage. It couldn't have come at a worse time. Their advice if you can't make the new payments is to consider selling. But our property is now worth less than the mortgage so that wouldn't solve the problem. DD is due to start school locally in a months time so moving back to the BTL property (30+ miles away) would be a disaster & again, because of the negative equity in our house wouldn't solve the problem. My family have been bailing us out for months just so we can afford to eat & pay our mortgage & they can't do that indefinitely (and I wouldn't expect them to).

Due to the nature of DHs work an IVA would cause all sorts of problems & would mean that his income stream (small as it currently is) would stop. Going bankrupt (as suggested by CAB) would not help us either as he would no longer be able to be a company director so again we would lose all our income. I am self-employed also, I work for DH mostly doing his admin. I applied for some part time work when DD was younger but got no where, and although proving it was because of my illness it's impossible (I have to disclose as technically I am classed as disabled) I suspect that it was a factor. We number crunched after the failed attempts at me finding work & actually worked out that after we had paid childcare costs we would be left with about £10 a week which wouldn't cover my petrol cost & we would be worse off so I have just stuck with working for DH & given up looking for work. We live semi rural & jobs locally are really limited & of course everyone wants to work during school hours.

Neither of us are sleeping properly. The stress of it all is making us ill. I just can't see a way out of this. No idea what we are going to do. Everytime there is light at the end of the tunnel it turns out to be an oncoming train! There are improvements in the business, but not enough to help us out yet! Just don't know how much longer we can keep going like this. We could throw the towel in & go & live with my mum, but it's 120miles away & would have massive consequences for all of us. Not even sure what advice I want or what I want anyone to say. Just needed to get it all out, can't tell anyone in RL & at the moment it feels like I'm drowning.

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rainonme · 16/08/2012 21:20

Thank you so much, that's really helpful. I shall do some investigating.

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neverquitesure · 16/08/2012 21:34

Just found all their fact sheets and information on their website

Worth a call to them too, they really were terribly nice.

We were lucky enough not to need their help but by the time I had spoken to them on the phone I felt like, should things not improve, we had some very viable and not too life-changing options available to us.

PS. sorry for all the typos and errors on my earlier post. Was a bit Blush when I read it back!

dementedma · 16/08/2012 21:42

We have a debt management plan with Payplan. They have been fabulous. It stops all the harassing calls and letters too. Please give them a call

rainonme · 17/08/2012 09:06

Thanks to everyone, you have all been terribly nice & helpful.

DH seems to be shutting me out (usually a sign that he's 'dealing' with the crap) or he's burying his head in the sand. Really wish he wasn't doing either!

Today I shall be making a list of all the stuff I would need to do should we have to move to my mum's for a bit. (ie. sorting out schools, changing addresses, notifying doctors/consultants) I am also planning a big de-clutter in the hopes of finding some stuff to ebay. Might not be much, but at least it keeps me from going completely crazy!

Think I am going to go back to my usual MN self. Thank you all so much, especially for all the debt managment advice. :) Onwards & upwards...got my Euromillions ticket, fingers crossed eh?! Wink

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NationalLottie · 11/09/2012 20:05

I remembered this post today when I was speaking to our mortgage lender as we are part interest paying. Basically they can't change the terms of an existing mortgage ie they can't withdraw this product. We had an assurance from our lender they won't ever do this even though they no longer offer new interest only deals. I would query that with your lender

boschy · 12/09/2012 10:07

just found this thread, and I hope things are getting better for you rain. if you still need help, the national debt line people have a business section who I have spoken to and found to be incredibly helpful, they understand that business/personal finance can sometimes be intertwined and thus very complex.

we havent resorted to them yet, but I think we will have to shortly... best of luck, it's a vile situation.

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