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HELP Housing Association rules when splitting up.

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nutcracker · 08/02/2006 08:40

Ok both names are on the tenancy. I have chucked him out but according to other people because his name is on the tenancy, I cannot legally kick him out and if he goes he will be seen to have made himself homeless and will not be entitled to re housing.

I can't find anything in any of my paperwork about this. I know that they give points for breakdown of relationship but surely they don't expect us to carry on living together until they can rehouse him.

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Rhubarb · 08/02/2006 13:25

He's really trying isn't he? He believes that if he goes at you long enough you'll eventually cave in and let him back. But you won't will you? I'll email Custy and link her to this thread, but I don't think she's on till later so keep checking it. She works in the Housing Association and so will know everything there is to know.

You hang on in there!

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nutcracker · 08/02/2006 13:27

Ok, thanks for that Rhubarb.

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Rhubarb · 08/02/2006 13:28

And block his emails!

Tortington · 08/02/2006 16:12

just got rhubarbs link to this - just got home. i am not a housing officer so i dont have detail - but lets face it the man is being made homeless.

so if i was beig made homeless i wouldnt be right fussy about where i was being housed.

at the moment what he is doing is saying " look am trying..its so hard"

when in fact what he's doing is narrowing his options so much - that its almost impossible

he needs to go to the council. he needs to be put on their list, there usually is an option to be refered to housing associations - he needs to tick this.

i have no idea where you live and what the state of the housing lists are like but each local authority works it differenty depending on need.

now in most places in the south you get nominated by the council to housing associations becuase housing shortages are so acute.

however when i was up north ( oldham) i could move straight with the Housing association becuase there was no shortage.

what i am saying is he needs to make more of an effort - he needs to find out whether housing associations only accept nominations from the council in your area. OR whether he can ring up each HA in the area individually and ask them.

also he should look into getting a bedsit - and you should get him to give you a letter putting the tenancy in your name.

if he can live ( or say he is living) with someone who has 16 kids - 14 of whom have special needs and he is causing overcrowding then this is going to help with his points.

whatever nutty - you must get him to give you a letter so the HA can transfer the tenancy into your name only.

Tortington · 08/02/2006 21:46

get him to contact shelter - they have speialist legal advisors with regards to homelessness

Rhubarb · 09/02/2006 14:06

bump for Nutty

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nutcracker · 09/02/2006 16:32

Thankyou Costardo (and rhubarb for Contacting you).

I already know alot of the answers to the things you have said and I have told him to go to the local council and apply for housing, ticking the box saying he will accept HA's too.

He is just feeling sorry for himself and making it harder work than it needs to be.

Housing can be hard to come by in our area depending on what you want. He wants a 2 bed flat in this area, council or ha. Now we once waited for exactly that and the wait was only 6mths. That was a while ago mind. For this 4 bed house we waited about 2 years.

I think he could probably get priority points for depression as his g.p would be more than willing to help him. In which case i think he wold be looking at 6mths maximum.

I have told him he either needs to write a letter stating he wants him name taking off the temnancy or go and see them and tell them.
At the moment he is refusing because his stuoid family are telling him not to.

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nutcracker · 09/02/2006 16:33

Sorry for the typos

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tiredemma · 09/02/2006 16:36

alright nutty? so where is he now then? at his brothers?

i think he is going to try and make all this extremely difficult isnt he?

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nutcracker · 09/02/2006 16:38

He is at his necies flat still.

I will bet my life that he won't have done anything about it today.

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mummyhill · 09/02/2006 16:41

How about pointing out to him that whilst his name is still on the tenancy he is still jointly responsible for any damage etc which could involve costly repairs wether he is living there or not and that it will hold up his own application for a property. And as you aren't going to let him move back in he needs to get his application processed as soon as possible.

Wishing you loads of luck and strength.

tiredemma · 09/02/2006 16:55

I think that he is going to wallow around in self pity emma, letting everybody think that you are a total bitch for kicking him out. Totally disregarding the fact that he made your life unbearable.

he cant seriously expect the council/ha to just consider him only for flats in your area? if hes homeless, he's homeless.

keep you chin up em x

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nutcracker · 09/02/2006 16:58

I don't mind if he only puts down this Sutton Coldfield, I mean there are several estates that he could get then really.

He cannot though just ask for this estate because that will just not work, he will be waiting forever.

I told him today that if i get the slightest hint that his mother is anywhere near my house, or i get any funny phonecalls etc, I will be seeing a solicitor about an injunction on her as imo I have cause to be worried she could harm me.

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tiredemma · 09/02/2006 17:00

really nutty, is she really that mad? how old is she?

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nutcracker · 09/02/2006 17:01

Not sure how old she is, but she has threatened me before and attempted to hit me when i was pregnant with dd1 so I just don't trust her.

She comes down here to visit relatives once a fortnight i think, so I have told him I want to know when she is here so I can be on my guard.

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tiredemma · 09/02/2006 17:16

god she sounds a bit a barmy, hopefully she will steer clear nutty.

are you feeling a bit better today? are the kids ok?

tortoise · 09/02/2006 17:29

I made my now xp move out in Nov last yr.He kept saying he would sleep in the car and where did i expect him to go! In the end he went to his xp and has been sleeping on her front room floor ever since. I know he hopes I will let him back but theres no chance! He hasnt been to any housing.Im lucky cos our house tenancy was in my name only. Know his xp is fed up with him being there but doesnt want to see him out on the streets!! Good luck and stay strong.I know what you are going through.

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nutcracker · 09/02/2006 17:30

Yeah I am feeling a bit better today thanks.

The kids are doing ok. Dd1 is the biggest worry at the mo cos I know she is bottling it up. Dd2 isn't too bad and tends to say whats on her mind. Ds keeps forgetting daddy isn't here, but just says ok and goes off happily when you remind him.

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nutcracker · 09/02/2006 17:31

Thanks Totoise. I so wish i had never had his name put on the agreement.

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lou33 · 09/02/2006 17:55

i split from my h in nov too, i go the same spiel about where would he go

they always find somewhere if they have to, dont worry about him

Tortington · 09/02/2006 19:28

\link{http://england.shelter.org.uk/advice/advice-3171.cfm/setcountry/true/?r=gaw&frmAlias=/associations/\this may help)

also had a look at waterloo housing associations lettings policy ( googled sutton coldfield) and it seems that you can apply directly

what it did remind me of on thie site is that if you have rent arrears no one will take you on - hence a good reason for him to sign over the tenancy - in case you get into debt and scupper his chances

Tortington · 09/02/2006 19:29

hold on will try again

this

Tortington · 10/02/2006 19:17

also was kinda asking around and found out that HOusing associations in the south although they dont advertise the fact do have their own waiting list sometimes - wo is well worth him phoning them and asking for an application

Tortington · 10/02/2006 19:18

i dont mean south - i mean i am in the south - you know that - i mean well they have their own lists anyway so they should phone

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nutcracker · 12/02/2006 12:57

Meant to say thanks for your help Custardo

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