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15 replies

Aero · 24/01/2006 21:16

Can I pick your learned CAB brain please?

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Aero · 24/01/2006 21:27

Come out, come out, wherever you are........

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Freckle · 24/01/2006 21:29

I'm here m'dear. What can I do you for?

Aero · 24/01/2006 21:34

might me a bit long and complicated, but to put it in a nutshell.....mil is planning to come over here to live from S Africa as all but one of her children are now living here. She is an Irish citizen with Irish passport, but has not lived there since the 1950's, and never here. We wondered if there would be any help available to her when she comes as we would find it difficult financially to support her and also, none of us have space in our homes for her to live with us (nor would she want that).
Any ideas?

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Aero · 24/01/2006 21:35

ps - her mother was English and she is 71.

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Freckle · 24/01/2006 21:37

My understanding is that, as a citizen of a member state of the EU, she has a right to live here. However, I'm not sure whether she has a right to any financial assistance from the state.

What is her financial situation? Does she have a house in SA which she is selling? If she is expecting to be housed by the local authority, she might be out of luck. As a single person, unless she has any health or other problems, she won't be a priority and there aren't many properties suitable for a single person.

Let me know a bit more about her situation and I'll make more enquiries. I'm in work tomorrow so could check then.

Aero · 24/01/2006 21:46

She has no home of her own as she's always rented in SA. Her dh had a pension in Zimbabwe (from when they lived there), but it is now worth next to nothing due to the current situation there (and I don't think she can take money out of that country anyway). Her dh died in 1991. She lives on her Irish pension and her dd sends her money monthly (afaik), to help her out.

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Aero · 24/01/2006 21:46

When she comes here, her sole income will be from her Irish passport.

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Aero · 24/01/2006 21:47

duh - meant Irish pension which would be around £65 pw.

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Aero · 24/01/2006 21:56

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Freckle · 24/01/2006 22:07

Will check out the situation re benefits tomorrow.

Aero · 24/01/2006 22:08

Thanks Freckle. You're a gem.

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Freckle · 24/01/2006 22:09

Sparkle, sparkle

Aero · 24/01/2006 22:14

lol

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Freckle · 25/01/2006 16:29

OK, I have a bit more information now. As an Irish national, your MIL has a right to settle in Britain. However, as she hasn't lived in an EU country for some time, there are restrictions on what she can claim as she would fail the habitual residence test.

If you can bring her here and have her live with you for a few months, she could probably pass the habitual residence test and then be in a position to claim income support - although this is means-tested and her pension would be taken into account. An alternative is to bring her here as your dependant and then claim that you cannot afford to support her. Accommodation-wise, she would have a better chance of obtaining local authority or housing association housing if she has some health problems. Housing is allocated on a points system and points are awarded for a range of criteria. Health problems and children get the most points, so health would be her best bet.

If she cannot get LA housing, she could look into privately rented accommodation with a view to obtaining housing benefit. She could ask for a pre-tenancy determination, which is where she and her prospective landlord fill in a form, send it to the rent officer who decides how much (sometimes all) of the rent is eligible for housing benefit. That way, she knows that she can afford the property as she knows how much of the rent will be covered by housing benefit. Two disadvantages are that (a) the landlord knows she will need HB (and some can be difficult about that) and (b) the process takes about 2 weeks, during which time the property can be let to someone else.

Let me know if you need anything else.

Oh and do check that her current pension can follow her abroad.

Aero · 25/01/2006 18:45

Fantastic Freckle - that is most helpful. It's all seeming so complicated, but looking more feasible now. Thank you so much for taking the time to do that for us.

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