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Squatters - your opinion?

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Earlybird · 25/11/2005 20:59

Early this morning some short term squatters (less than three months) who have been living in a disused commercial building near my flat were evicted by the property owners with police backup. There was no violence, as I understand it.

Area residents knew people were coming/going at the site, but didn't realise people were actually living there. Early this week, the squatters posted a "legal notice" on the hoarding (printed from a website for squatter's rights) laying claim to the space, and stating that "this is now our home, and at least one person is present at all times". Ironically, by trying to protect themselves, the notice drew attention to the fact that they were there, and wheels were set in motion to have them removed.

The police told me that the squatters had set up house, and that there was a 3 piece leather suite, a telly/video recorder, microwave, etc inside the property.

I wasn't happy about them being there, but keep thinking of how cold it is tonight and wonder what's become of them. I do know they were allowed to return to the site to reclaim their possessions....which were sitting on the pavement watched by a policeman when I walked by this afternoon.

What do you think of squatting? Should those who do it be protected legally in any way? Anyone have any personal experience/knowledge of it?

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Gem754 · 25/11/2005 21:07

Wow, they managed to get them off the property within a week! It usually takes alot longer than that.

I'm torn when it comes to squatters. On the one hand they're living on someone elses property without paying reant while the rest of us pay out for our homes. On the other hand they're making good use of an unused property, which in this time of housing crisis is positivly criminal.

I do hope they find somewhere for tonight as it is really cold.

charlietherednosedpussy · 25/11/2005 21:22

Hmmmm, I suppose use it whilst its empty...dont wreck it and leave if asked in an ideal world.
My brother was homeless and set up a tent on the edge of someones field in some trees, over winter too. Was very pleased noone asked him to leave though...so [confused icon]

paolosgirl · 25/11/2005 21:52

If the landlord is willing for them to use it for free instead of it lying empty, then good for them. Somehow, I think most landlords would expect some sort of payment.....this is the real world we live in, after all. Sounds to me that the squatters near you were hardly living on the streets if they had all that furniture!

Earlybird · 25/11/2005 22:12

It wasn't a house or a flat, but rather a disused petrol station. The squatters had broken into the attached shop, and were living there. It wasn't immediately apparent, as the pumps/shop were hidden behind hoarding - who knows how the squatters managed to get all that furniture over hoarding, but they did.

I think the issue that drove the eviction was insurance related. When the site owners and their insurers were made aware of the squatters presence (as stated earlier by the legal notice that was posted), I suppose they decided that the risk was not acceptable. So, the eviction proceeded.

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collision · 25/11/2005 22:24

No, sorry. I dont agree with squatters and think it is abominable that there is such a thing as squatters rights. They should be evicted and should pay their way etc Dont agree with gypsies either, taking land that doesnt belong to them.

The squatters could prob have gone to a homeless refuge and slept there.

expatinscotland · 25/11/2005 22:27

I was shocking to hear about 'squatter's rights' here. What rights? That's nothing more than legalised thieving, IMO.

expatinscotland · 25/11/2005 22:32

And I agree w/collision in that I don't agree w/ANYONE taking land that doesn't belong to them. Sorry, but I don't. I bust my ass to be legit - pay rent and taxes, etc. What the hell kind of example is it when others get away w/it? It's just legalised thuggery.

collision · 25/11/2005 22:33

Oooh, I totally agree Expat!! It is just theft.

(I was expecting outrage when I wrote that so I am glad someone agrees!)

NotQuiteCockney · 26/11/2005 07:29

Hmmm, I'm a bit more sympathetic, I guess. If a building isn't being used, why not? But I guess I'd like the state to have the right to repossess or force-buy homes/buildings that sit empty for more than a set period of time (with no building work etc).

I'm not convinced any of our current property rights are based on anything more than passed-on squatters rights, anyway.

Earlybird · 26/11/2005 23:59

NQC - I think the problem is (and I know this is a sweeping generalisation), that squatters often damage the vacant property in some way. If it was a matter of simply living in the empty buildings for a limited time so that the homeless weren't on the streets in the elements, landlords/police might not object so strongly. But unfortunately, I think it can sometimes be difficult to distinguish the squatters from the vandals from the criminals using the space for illegal activities.

A long time ago, my family had a vacant house that was moved into by squatters. When we were finally able to evict them (after a long legal battle), and reclaim the property, you wouldn't have believed the state it was in. All the fixtures/fittings had been stripped, and several holes had been cut in the floorboards for use as toilets. The house was in a terrible state.

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