If someone paid just over nine grand in taxes, then what is their gross income?

[ladysybil]

I'm a bit clueless. does anyone knoew how to work this out? even roughly would be fine.

he's not staying within the law if he's pretending people work for him who don't and claiming wages for them which he's keeping!

Are you getting your wages into your account? is your son getting his into his account? if not, then your husband is not staying within the law at all.

Yes. He has to tell the LEA and in some cases the school. You have to complete loads of paperwork of they are 13. Look on direct.gov.uk- google employing children.

It is why you can't work for sainsburys or asda etc until 16. It's a real hassle.

I employ my 16 year old on a casual basis ( she does actually work for me when I need extra hands at an event on a Saturday).

I looked at it when she was 14 but it was too much hassle. I had to get permission from the school in my case (I think it varies regionally) but the local holds a register.

Www.education.gov.uk

Guidance on tne employment of children.

And direct.gov.uk

IIRC a member of your family doesn't have to be 13 but yes the tax man would be very interested ....

wow. thank you for all that. I think i might send him an email with these links..

he does give it to me on paperwork, because the mortgage account is joint in both our names. i dont have access to it, coz i didnt even know about it, was set up when i very hormonal and pregnant and i signed wherever he told me to.

I think its dodgy about your son. I am paid by my husbands company, and I don't do much for it, but it is advised by our accountant. Just over the NI level (I think that is to help pensions), and my mobile and lap top are company ones. However she said HMRC have tightened up, so if I was paid much more we would have to show real work I had been doing, also you can no longer buy things for kids. It is also a bad idea to employ children unless they are adults and are really contributing to the company.

If your relationship is in danger, you need to get copies of bank statements etc. I have one friend who has a very nice life post divorce, but still knows her ex hid about 3/4 of his income. BTW I have access to all my DHs company files, and he discusses them with him, I also attend accountants meetings and am copied in on emails. I am also a signatory on everything, which is good if something happened to him.

so your salary goes straight into the mortgage account.

And what money do you get to spend??

you don't have access to your wages?

really?

my god.

I think you need to sit down and discuss the family finances and business practices now that you're not hormonal/pregnant. He can just about get away with saying he employs you given that you do odd jobs. It isn't on to say he's employing a 13 year-old when he isn't. You're being treated as a 'kept woman' rather than a trusted wife and that doesn't sound healthy to me.

I needed additional insurance to employ a 14 year old as well which was another reason that I didn't go ahead.

If he is taking most of his income as dividend it could be a lot more than the figures quoted here as tax on dividend is only 18%.

"he always stays within the law. he's clever like that"

not that clever I would think if this is how he thinks tax law works:

"Its probly dh#s way of ensuring he has money to pay for school fees etc. "

Course he isn't az clever as he thinks. Who amongst us is? I sent him email about it and he's informed menus doesn't need a lecture on employment law. I told him I begged to differ. Left it at that. He can sort it out.
But basically, he's rolling in it isn't he? How do I do a wry smiley? Sigh....

Thank you all

so he's rolling in it - and what do you get to spend??

why would your dh want to keep his salary a secret from you?

how bizarre

Be very careful Syb. A mother of DSs schoolfriend had a similar situation, her DH left her and she has had no end of troubles. Money has vanished abroad, the house was remortgaged without her knowledge and repossessed.

Please make sure you know what you have and what you are entitled to in a worst case scenario.

Really concerned you don't know what your family income is . Hope you are OK OP

he cant remortgage the house without my signature, coz we own it jointly.

I aggree, is a bad situation to be in, but, it is what it is, and i really truly should have namechanged for this. but, i will be okie. :) ive got mumsnetters on my side :)