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BENEFIT FRAUD

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noddyholder · 11/09/2005 08:52

I have just found out that someone I know is doing this in a big way I don't really know what to think and I wouldn't report her/them.She lives an amazing life and I know why now.It has made me feel differently about them as friends IYKWIM but it seems a fair few people know and don't mind.I just think that when i next speak to her I will feel a it strange as she is always talking about their next purchase or holiday They even own several properties!!I don't know why I posted but needed to get it off my chest as it has been bugging me

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zippitippitoes · 11/09/2005 10:27

Well I think it would stick in my throat to be loyal.

So the staying friends aspect wouldn't come up.

I don't know the circumstances but whether I shopped them or not I wouldn't be seeing them around.

moozoboozo · 11/09/2005 10:27

People like that really piss me off. Me and DP work really hard to keep our heads above water, we have no chance of claiming any kind of benefit (and we don't want to either) we can barely afford our rent each month, and only went on holiday in June because my mum paid for it. We can't afford our own house, as we'd get a mortgage for a garage where we live in Bath. I know it's difficult for you, but I would urge you to report them. At the end of the day, you are paying for their houses and holidays.

Earlybird · 11/09/2005 10:30

Don't know anything about it, but are people who receive benefits monitored in any way? Is there no one "official" who can see when people's assets/activities far exceed what they "should" be able to afford?

I always wonder about the high profile activities (cars, clothes, holidays etc) that would seem to draw attention to the fact that something dishonest must be going on.

zippitippitoes · 11/09/2005 10:31

Someone will shop them eventually because they will fall out with a neighbour or friend or whatever and that will be their revenge, especially if it's common knowledge.

Earlybird · 11/09/2005 10:34

But, does the system depend on someone shopping them? There's no system in place for fraud other than being shopped?

zippitippitoes · 11/09/2005 10:41

This is from Targetting Benefit Fraud

We know from research that most people do not realise the level of benefit fraud. Some people see it as a victimless crime. It is not. We estimate that £2 billion a year is lost through people claiming money they are not entitled to. We want people to realise that fraud is everyone's problem, and that the Government is determined to deal with it.

We want people to understand that benefit fraud is unacceptable. One of the ways we are trying to do this is through advertising. An independent report (the Grabiner Report) recommended testing the use of paid advertising to change attitudes to benefit fraud. Publicity has been used successfully by Government in the past to change public attitudes over time, for example to tackle drink-driving.

What is being done apart from the Targeting Benefit Fraud campaign?
In addition to the work on interviewing, visiting and investigation that goes on every day around the country, special initiatives to drive down fraud include the following: ? A National Intelligence Unit has been set up to analyse fraud data on a national scale, identifying fraud and trends in the system. This information will feed the specification for fraud set by the Fraud Strategy Unit.
? The Fraud Strategy Unit has been set up to research the risks of types of fraud to help us prevent it, and to root it out when it does happen.
? We have made the way people claim Income Support more secure. Customers must now produce more evidence to support their claim before Income Support is paid.
? Rigorous standards have been set for local authorities to check Housing Benefit and Council Tax Benefit claims.
? We have introduced the Royal Mail 'do not redirect' scheme. This prevents benefit cheats using false addresses for their bogus claims by using the Royal Mail's postal redirection arrangements.
? We have tightened up on the evidence needed when applying for a National Insurance number. The numbers are issued by specially trained staff, backed up by the National Identity Fraud Unit.
? Local Authorities have direct access to the Department for Work and Pensions information through Remote Access Terminals, and can guard against fraudulent claims for Housing Benefit or Council Tax Benefit.
? Data matching cross-checks benefit and Inland Revenue records to find benefit cheats.

How can I tell you if I suspect someone of fraud?
You can report suspicion of fraud, without giving your name, by using the electronic reporting form on this website Report a benefit cheat online, or you can ring the National Benefit Fraud Hotline on 0800 854 440 between 7am and 11pm, 7 days a week. It is free and confidential. If you prefer, you can forward information in writing to:
NBFH
PO Box 224
Preston
PR1 1GP

noddyholder · 11/09/2005 13:33

thanks for all your replies I am hoping that someone else decides to report her I know that is a cop out but her family know some pretty tough people i think so i wouldn't like to mess with them tbh I rarely see them now and will be even less from now on

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