Miscarriage at 7 +5 weeks - no heartbeat

[beanieb]

Hi there. Am wondering if anyone can explain to me what I should expect.

I had an early scan today at 7 +5 weeks and was told there is no heart beat and that they sould see some bleeding.

I have not bled at all since I found out I was pregnant but they say I should expect to start bleeding in the next few days and it may be heavier than usual.

I am gutted but also worried by the fact that I have no idea when to expect it to happen.

Please, does anyone have any experience/advice about what I should expect they didn't give me any leaflets because they said they were booking me in for another scan in 11 days time but that I might bleed before then, so I have no clue what to expect.

TIA

I think the natural mc carries far less risk of infection than an ERPC. There is no impact on fertility, esp if it happens naturally - I conceived again within 4 months.

You will be fine - The waiting for it will probably be worse than the actual event. Hope it is over for you soon.

sorry but I am going to have to be self-indulgent and post stuff.

It still hasn't happened yet and no signs I have only had 4 hours sleep and I am just fed up wit the waiting. My friend who is 24ish weeks pregnant mailed me to see if she could come round to see if I am ok but there is nothing in the world I want less. My mum wants to come round later but I just want to be on my own. When people are here I feel like I have to put on a brave face and it's just so tiring for me.

It's really so hard to not know when it's going to happen or what it will be like.

The clinic said they would give me leaflets after the scan but then they decided not to and I don't know why. Maybe they thought there was a chance I didn't need them? MAybe because I didn't cry there they didn't think I needed the support?

beanie this is such a hard time waiting
you need to do what is best for you no one else so if you don't want to see anyone don't
I remember my mum and dad being with me for one mc when dh was away and I just felt exhausted by the putting on a brave face and trying to comfort them in retrospect I would have been better on my own with ds
look after yourself be kind to yourself {hugs} andiex

beanie, I completely understand you not wanting people around, and very much agree that if you don't want them there it's okay to say 'thanks, but I really want to be on my own'. You're putting up a protective shell, and that can be good, because even the most well meaning and caring of people will say things that hit you wrong and aren't helpful. Though nothing anyone can say at this point is helpful really. Even my DH, who was devastated by my MC, said things that made me sad/angry/disappointed in him for not quite 'getting it'.

When I had my MC, they gave me a leaflet from the Miscarriage Association. All their leaflets are on their website, so you could go and read some of those here. There is one that talks about management, so it might be helpful.

beanie, I've been thinking of you. I am also still waiting for things to happen with me and was initially hoping nature would kick in before I had to make medical decisions. I understand how you feel about not wanting company - I haven't actually told anyone what's happened and am not sure I ever will be able to.

I was given a leaflet of information on my options but only got myself into a state of mind to read it last night.

There are advantages and disadvantages for all. I've decided to opt for the surgical procedure (if nothing happens which I'm sort of hoping it won;t happen now) because it seems like the other two options might result in needing the surgical at the end anyway. I'm figuring I just want it over and done with with least trauma as possible at this stage, and I don't want to take the chance I end up being one of those who ends up with the rough end of the experience - I've had enough emotional upheaval and misery now and just want to move on as quickly as possible.

beanie, were you advised, if it starts and you can't manange the pain or if the bleeding is extremely heavy to get yourself down to A&E or call the early pregnancy unit straight away? I was given this advice when I left... it concerns me that you seem to have been given no useful guidance at all - makes me angry, actually.

I've scanned in the leaflet for you to read - it's three-fold and I've scanned it flat so you have to read the panels in order. I hope this helps.

Front of leaflet - read far right panel first

Back of leaflet - read all three panels second, then jump back to above link to finish

I was told that it may be painful and to take something like Ibrufen if it was. This was the IVF/fertility unit.

When I called them yesterday they said I was now in the hands of the EPU so I called them and they were lovely but offered no advice about what to do if I do start bleeding.

I'm just so confused because the nurses seemed to be giving me the impression that it was almost certainly going to be a miscarriage but like you have said they have given me very little information apart that it will be soon (I have since read it can take weeks) and that they could see bleeding on the scan - though I still have not bled at all.

Thank you so much for scanning these in for me. I hope that your own situation is not too painful.

beanieb, just wondering how you're doing today? Are you going to work tomorrow?

beanieb - so sorry you are going though this, I am currently 7+5, but 90% convinced I m/c'd last week due to bleeding and cramps and everything. I have had 3 previous m/c's at 5 weeks and they were like normal periods, infact one was even lighter than a normal period!. But last week I had a heavy and crampy period, but it was just like a horrible period, and I have had worse when I was younger.

I have been finding this website useful for information on what people experienced with miscarriages, and this other website good for information too.

I am going for another scan tomorrow to find out if I have definitely miscarried or not.

Hi, sorry I missed these messages.

I went back to work yesterday and it was fine. I think All my crying is over with now after an awful weekend of self-pity and stress.

My work mate has also had a miscarriage so we went for a coffee and a chat which was nice.

Still no bleeding and I can't help cling on to a bit of hope for Friday's scan even though I know it will be bad news.

Rainbowdays, good luck for the scan today. I hope you have positive news. thank you for the links.

How is everyone else?

Hi Beanie - So sorry you having to go through this. Just wanted to say that I had no bleeding or anything when I went for my scan at 7 + 3 and was expecting it all to be ok, then they said teh baby was too small and that the heartbeat was very weak - so to come back in a week. Which I did and then there was no heartbeat.

From the first scan it was nearly two weeks (13 days actually) until the MC happened. I went to work the whole time, then I had a week off after, I actually went in on the Thursday after it happened on the Sun, but had to take Fri off as kept crying... This was about 2 motnhs ago.

I hope you have good news on Fri xx

Hi all,

I thought I would update you on what has happened not least because it may be helpful for anyone else going through the same thing.

Went for the second scan today at the Early pregnancy unit. They didn't have my notes so had no proper idea of why I was there which was annoying but they were all very lovely to me and once I had explanied that I was fully expecting to be told that it is a non-viable pregnancy they were very straight with me which I prefered.

The scan showed the pregnancy measuring at just over 6 weeks (I am almost 9 weeks now) and there was no heartbeat. The Yolk sac had gone but they could see a small mass which they say was probably the beginings of the foetus. They say it's not a molar pregnancy nor a blighted ovum, just a missed miscarriage of a foetus which has not developed. They couldn;t se any bleeding in my uterus but say that if the previous scan showed some then it's possible that it has been absorbed into my body.

Was asked if I wanted to let it happen naturally as that is an option but I asked them to talk me through the medical management and then decided to go ahead with that. They had to give me the pill there and then as legally they have to administer it on the premises, so that was a bit of a shock as I had thought I could take it home and have a think about it for a while. Before I took it I had to sign a consent form and I double checked with them that there was no way at all this pregnancy could survive. I now have to take a course of anti-biotics and insert 4 pessaries in sunday and then wait. They also took blood to test my blood type and iron levels.

Everyone was very lovely and they let me ask loads of questions and gave me all the answers I was seeking.

So it's done more or less and all I can do now is wait. Am quite relieved in a way as it draws a line under it all and I can now look forward and think about trying again once I get the miscarriage over with.

Best wishes to anyone else going through this and I wish you all the luck in the world.

Thank you again for your support.

sorry - that should be I am almost into my 9th week.

beanieb - thank you for coming back and updating your situation. Mine is still in limbo. Waiting to miscarry. I am now 8weeks3days.

I went for the scan, which after a week showed the scan a week smaller rather than bigger (now showing at 5weeks 2days rather than 6weeks1day). But I had stopped bleeding, so I was no longer miscarrying naturally.

I had blood tests @ 7weeks 6days hcg was 1024, at 8weeks1day (eg 48hours later) the level had reduced to 840. So my body is not miscarrying like it should do as the levels should have halved in the 48hours.

I am still slightly spotting some red blood, but no cramps and just waiting for the inevitable to happen.

I have to go back on monday for another blood test to check that the levels are reducing and then they will decide whether or not to scan me again.

I am still hoping I will lose this pregnancy naturally, rather than having to take the medical route. But I am just taking one day at a time. The hardest bit is that I still feel very pregnant with nausea, tiredness etc. But at least I know now that it is the hormones reducing not increasing, so I am not thinking it will produce a baby. Although I suppose there is a small section of my brain that hopes for a miracle that the doctors are wrong!

beanie, thanks for coming back to update. Once again, am really sorry for your loss. Take it easy, take time off if you need/want it. I'm glad they were able to answer your questions and that you're feeling some relief now. Wishing you the best when you decide to try again.