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Everyone else managed to have kids in the end

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Pegs11 · 13/08/2018 14:01

Just looking for some solidarity really, and maybe a pep talk. We’ve just lost our baby at 8 weeks following our third and final round of IVF... just waiting for nature to take its course.

We are now really having to face the reality of spending the rest of our lives childless (we have already looked into adoption, it’s not for us).

I’m now 38. Almost all of my friends have managed to have kids. Even the one who said she never wanted kids (eventually she just became ready). Even the one who struggled with infertility and was told she stood only a 20 per cent chance. Even the one who had two miscarriages and then got lucky with her third pregnancy.

Over the last ten years or so I have watched them all start their families, and have felt the distance between us grow bigger as their lives become utterly unrelatable to mine. I find I don’t want to hang out with them or even really speak to them anymore, as all they talk about is their kids and I end up just feeling bad/sad/angry. I have so little in common with these people who used to be great friends of mine, and I feel increasingly isolated.

Anyone else in the same boat?

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MynameisJune · 13/08/2018 14:05

I’m not but just wanted to offer a huge hug, I’m sorry for your losses. It’s heartbreaking and sad and utterly unfair. Be kind to yourself for a while.

Is there a reason you’re not doing any more IVF rounds? Have you had counselling?

InDreamland · 13/08/2018 17:02

@Pegs11 I'm so sorry for your loss. I can relate to some of what you say and am the same age as you. It's 4 weeks today since I lost our baby at 12 week and it's no easier to cope with others who are pregnant or have babies around me - feel physically sick and just want to scream. I have found I've unfollowed so many people on Facebook because I just cannot cope with all the pregnancy and baby announcements - but so many who haven't experienced this don't understand. People don't get or aren't sensitive about the pregnancy/baby talk but should they be? I'd like them to be but they've never lost a baby (especially when like us we'd battled fertility problems for years) they'll never understand. When you're ready if you haven't already do look into some counselling as it may help. I do get how it can hurt and how you can feel isolated and sometimes judged by others because you've been unable to have a full term pregnancy and it's heartbreaking. Life really is shit. I hope you have support around you at this really terrible time Flowers

RandomMess · 13/08/2018 17:09

That's really shit ThanksThanksThanks

I have no advice or wisdom, grieving takes as long as takes. I'm so sorry for your loss.

Pegs11 · 13/08/2018 18:06

Thank you all so much for your replies and kind words.

I don’t really feel like I need counselling right now... I’m really quite good at processing things on my own, after many years of developing that skill! I just feel I would like to chat to people who are in a similar situation really, so I don’t feel so isolated and ‘different’.

InDreamland, I’m so sorry you suffered a recent loss too. My heart goes out to you. It really sucks, huh.

I came off Facebook a couple of years ago because I felt it was doing me more harm than good, for lots of reasons, not least seeing all those happy family showreels and all the ‘my kids are the best thing that ever happened to me’ type posts. Even worse was seeing posts from people moaning about their kids.... they just have no idea how shitty that sounds to someone who can’t have them...

... life is soooo much easier without Facebook!

I hate it when people ask me if I have kids, and when I say no, they say ‘ooh, lucky!’ And all I want to do is say (in the most sarcastic tone possible, obv) ‘Yeah, I’m REALLY lucky... lucky to have gone through cancer and infertility and a f**king miscarriage, you thoughtless, ignorant twunt ’...

... but of course I don’t say that, and I immediately feel bad for even thinking it, because how can I expect them to know, or to understand something they’ve never had to face? They are just human beings, reeling off those standardised small-talk phrases as human beings so often do, and holding it against them isn’t going to do me any favours.

In any case, I know deep down that having kids ISN’T all warm and fuzzy... and I try to remind myself of that when I’m going around with my rose-tinted spectacles on. Every time I feel sad at how I will never experience that dreamy, idyllic skin-on-skin, new baby smell, seeing that first smile, walking around proudly with my little papoose bundle, hearing them say ‘mummy’ for the first time, I think about all the sleepless nights and the tantrums and the absolute exhaustion and the strain it can put on a marriage and the trying to juggle everything and the shit it does to your body and how your life can be turned absolutely upside down and inside out for YEARS. I think about that, and while it doesn’t make me feel ‘better’ exactly, it does help put things more in perspective, I guess. It’s so easy to over-idealise the dream, it’s like the more out of reach it is, the more we tend to idealise it.

Anyway, I am ranting, but I’m finding it helpful to write this down :)

I just kind of wish it was easier to make new friends who I can relate to. My friends have gradually diminished over the past few years and I only have a few left now, and none of them are local to me. I wish there was some kind of meetup group for childless people in my area - like an alternative to making friends at NCT classes! (I was looking forward to that bit, dammit).

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SpectacularAardvark · 13/08/2018 19:51

Definitely come off Facebook, it makes you feel shit. I spent years in this position and know how it feels.
I finally got my miracle baby but it still winds me up how Facebook people casually seem to knock out loads of kids and take it all for granted. (It's probably not true but it feels that way)

One of the worst things about infertility is the people who think it's fine to keep asking incredibly personal questions and keep going when it's clearly upsetting you. No I couldn't try this and yes I have heard of that and did your cousin's friend really try for so many years and then have triplets? I don't give a fuck! Angry

SpectacularAardvark · 13/08/2018 19:52

If it helps at all, my NCT group were all wankers Grin

EmeraldVillage · 13/08/2018 19:58

I’m so sorry OP. That really sucks and nothing I can say is going to make it suck less

You mention making new friends - this might be worth a look when you’re ready gateway-women.com

bluemoonchances · 13/08/2018 20:01

I totally get it OP. Am in the same boat. 8 years TTC, 6 MC, almost 40 and am having to come to terms that it isn't going to happen for me. All other friends have kids even the ones who struggled. It is shit. In infertility there's a thread called Uber Barrens. We're all in the same boat. Come join us for a safe space to rant xx

InDreamland · 13/08/2018 20:17

It sure does suck @Pegs11. I just can't deal right now with hearing about or seeing pregnant women and prams and babies. It's like the universe is rubbing it in my face ........ like look what you are incapable of doing.........5 years TTC and 1 pregnancy that ended in mc ........ like it's trying to torment me. It's good you are able to process things better than I can.

Where in the country are you based? Some ladies here might be in the same area and fancy meeting for a coffee.

Pegs11 · 13/08/2018 21:44

Thank you all :)

@bluemoonchances, thank you, That sounds good and I will check it out :)

@InDreamland, I’m based in the South West, near Bristol :) I would love to meet up with some fellow childless... not just for solidarity but also, in my personal experience, the childless women I know often have more to talk about, because they are not just focused on their kids and have time for other things in their lives! I like to talk about all kinds of things, and I really find that conversations with my friends who have kids tend to be very single-track -i.e. their kids, other people’s kids, and general gossip. I’m dying to chat to some women who have a broader range of chat than that!

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InDreamland · 13/08/2018 22:17

Hopefully some ladies who live that way will be along and be interested in a coffee. Unfortunately I'm too far away from you but I'm sure with Bristol area being large and well populated there'll be ladies more local to you on here. Maybe ask on the thread @bluemoonchances has mentioned. Hope you can find like minded people to meet up with x

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