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Eminado · 04/07/2015 17:52

Firstly I really hope this the correct place to post. If not I am sorry if i upset anyone.

Got a BFP about 5 weeks ago. Was unsure of my dates due to other issues going on at the time. Have had a bad feeling since the start.

Booked a reassurance scan for when I thought I would be 7 weeks. Went, had ultrasound, no heartbeat. GA given as 6 weeks 1 day.

Told to return in a week.

Went back today. Still no heartbeat. GA given again as 6 weeks and 2 days.

CRL Measurements were 5.1 mm and now 5.7mm.

I have no symptoms of miscarriage other than a bad feeling.

No EPUs open until Monday but I have a massive statutory filing deadline at work on Monday.

I am going out of my mind. The 1 week wait nearly finished me off - waiting till
Tues seems like something i mentally cant cope with.

What are your honest thoughts?

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bakingtins · 04/07/2015 19:29

I'm really sorry, that sounds like a missed miscarriage to me. If you had a BFP 5 weeks ago the least you could be is 8-9 weeks, and you should have a much bigger foetus with a strong heartbeat. The Foetal pole is assumed to grow 1mm per day, so in a week you should see 7mm difference. Fractions of a millimetre different is just the accuracy of the reading, not real growth. There should definitely be a heartbeat by the end of the sixth week.
Can you call in sick on Monday? I should imagine you are in no fit state to be at work. I hope you find EPU will accept the results of private scans but to prepare you they do sometimes insist on doing their own, and on a 6 week ish measurement with no heartbeat they won't act on a single scan in case dates are way out and the pregnancy is viable, they rescan in a further 1-2 weeks. Make sure you take the scan reports with you to hopefully avoid a further wait. Flowers

Baguettes · 04/07/2015 20:00

Sorry to hear this op. As bakingtins said, it sounds like a missed mc. I went through exactly the same; we saw a heartbeat During the second scan but still lost the baby a week later. It's heartbreaking.

Bakingtins' practical advice is spot on.

Do you have support at home. Fuck work - look after yourself. You are entitled to time off for this as it's pregnancy related.

Much love and hand holding at this horrible time Flowers

Eminado · 04/07/2015 20:07

Oh gosh. Was hoping you would say it might be ok.

Thank you for your replies. I so appreciate your straight answers. Thank you.

Sorry others have been through this too.

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Baguettes · 04/07/2015 22:07

It is a shitty, shitty time. Until your mc is confirmed, there is a chance things could work out for you. But those measurements should have shown so much more growth by now. I'm so sorry you are I this horrible limbo. I've been there - I had a week of hell. Then bleeding and desperately trying to get an EPU appointment.

My advice is to make sure you have someone at home to hold your hand and book that time off work. If, god forbid, you do start bleeding then you will want to be at home. If not then you can try and spend your time getting a scan to give you an answer.

Use this board; the women on here are amazing and it was a lifeline for me.

Much love.

Eminado · 04/07/2015 22:12

Thank you Baguettes.

Crying now.

I wish something would happen. No bleeding, no pain, still nauseous and tited, pregnancy test still +ve tonight - it's all giving me hope.

Then my brain kicks in. It is so shit.

Night night and thanks again Flowers

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Baguettes · 04/07/2015 22:17

Don't cry (I know hugs aren't the done thing on here but I don't care).

Our bodies are cruel, so cruel.

I hope you get as much sleep as you can Flowers

Baguettes · 05/07/2015 07:32

How are you doing this morning?

Eminado · 05/07/2015 11:33

Thank you Baguettes. I am having a horrible day. I cried most of last night and woke up with a headache.

Skipped Church today just not in the mood to pray.

Had started a list of baby names on my phone :-(

I can completely now understand the need to try to ttc immediately. That is all i can think about. I keep thinking if we get going immediately we can sort of maintain the same timeline. I know this makes no sense.

I am starving but cant get up to make something. Whats the point - its not like there is a baby that needs nourishing in there anymore.

With my dd i was so naive, had no idea how lucky i was, was just utterly clueless.

This time i was SO thankful and grateful and now it has been taken away.

Thank you so much for allowing me to write here. Dont feel obligated to answer me. I just feel
So
Lost and so very sad.

Why has this happened to me baguette? Why me? I wanted my baby SO much. How is this fair?

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Baguettes · 05/07/2015 17:14

I too had to deal with the list of baby names on my phone. It's shit. But, I am now pregnant again and have built a new list of names. You will come out the other side of this, I promise. It will be hard but you will get there.

It happens for so many different, painful reasons. I believe early miscarriages are mainly caused by a chromosomal abnormality which makes the baby 'incompatible with life'. A harsh term but one which made things slightly easier to handle for me. The thought that it wasn't my body or something I'd done was mildly comforting.

How has the rest of your day been? Have you had any spotting / bleeding?

If you can try and leave a message on your EPU answering machine. They are busy on Mondays. Typically, I also miscarried over the weekend and then had to battle to be seen on the Monday.

bakingtins · 05/07/2015 18:05

It's not fair. You need to let go of the idea that there is any justice in this. Most miscarriages are due to completely randomly occurring chromosome defects that mean the embryo has no potential to develop beyond a certain point. Your body is doing the best job it can to nurture that pregnancy, and next time, with a perfect embryo, the outcome will be different. It is a really crappy thing to go through but it is not, in any way, a punishment.

andadietcoke · 05/07/2015 18:14

It's not fair. It's really really shitty. It's a shitty thing to go through and one of the worst things is losing that pregnancy 'innocence' because you're unlikely to get it back. But please know that you're not alone. When I mc'ed I didn't realise how many people had gone through the same until I started talking (regrettably, much too late for anyone to help me through it). Take care of yourself, but let other people take care of you too.

The EPU will advise you about starting to TTC again. I was advised to wait two cycles. I actually waited one, but was glad I did - my body clearly needed time to recover. When you're ready, there's a fantastic TTC after a MC board on MN full of amazing women who know exactly what you're going through.

Eminado · 06/07/2015 08:16

Thanks for all your messages.

Thanks also for all your advice about the EPU. I am there now and its heaving. I got here an hour before opening time so i am 2nd in the q, thank goodness.

I dont want to be here.

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Baguettes · 06/07/2015 09:51

At least you're there, eminado. The people who work there are amazing and will look after you well. At least you will have some answers soon. Let us know how you get on. Flowers

bakingtins · 06/07/2015 10:56

Thinking of you.

andadietcoke · 06/07/2015 12:16

Here for hand-holding too Thanks

Eminado · 06/07/2015 22:11

Thank you so much for posting and thinking of me.

Miscarriage was confirmed.

Thought i was prepared but I really wasn't Sad
I ineardly thought you were all wrong Sad but you were right.

Today has been worse than I ever imagined. It can only get better in the coming days I suppose.

Thank you so much for posting. Wish I could express my appreciation better but am exhausted and drained. So Flowers.

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bakingtins · 06/07/2015 22:23

I'm so sorry. Even if you think you are prepared for bad news having the last spark of hope extinguished really hurts. What have you decided about what happens next?

Eminado · 06/07/2015 22:31

Well. THAT is the next mind fuck.

They want me to go back next week Weds for another scan "to confirm".

I said "i cant do this again, that will be a 4th scan looking at my dead baby (its a baby to me) on the screen".

They said they need 2 scans to confirm because my hCG levels are so high.

I said confirm what, baby died at 6 weeks. But I was crying a lot by this point so we just left it with appt booked for next Weds.

Sad
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Baguettes · 07/07/2015 05:18

I'm so sorry. Thinking of you, op.

You may find that now you've had the sad news confirmed, your body 'realises' what's going on and you miscarry naturally without having the added pain of waiting another week for another scan. Thankfully this happened to me.

Do you have support at home?
Much love.

bakingtins · 07/07/2015 07:39

Can you get your DH or a friend to phone and speak to them? If you have dated scan reports then it's unreasonable to make you wait again. I know it's very difficult to be assertive when you are upset. Their own guidelines say 1-2 weeks so at the very least you should be seen next Monday and make sure you are also provisionally booked for your preferred form of management so you don't have to wait again.

Eminado · 13/10/2015 10:29

Hello. I am so so so sorry it has taken me so long to come back and that I never updated you wonderful people.

I found my mc the hardest thing of my lide and I just could not bear to come back on this board.

I so appreciate all your kind words and all the help you gave me. Cannot thank you enough.

My heart is still broken but I really must thank you as I honestly would not have survived that first bit without your kindness.i am so sorry for all my swearing having re-read my posts Blush.

Bless you all for your immeasurable kindness to me Flowers.

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Eminado · 13/10/2015 10:29

*life

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