What is happening?

[vvconfused]

Sorry but am in a complete turmoil as to what is happening and the lack of information available.

Went for what I thought was an 8 week scan to be given the results as shown below. I am not at all sure of my dates and have made this clear from the outset.

Gestational age: 7 weeks + 3 days.
Early Preg nancy Assessment:
transvaginal US with Xario. Ultrasound view: Adequate resolution.
Gestational Sac: present. Yolk Sac: present. Embryo present. Fetal heart action present. Frequency 60 bpm. CRL = 3.4mm
Right ovary: Visibility: The ovary appears normal in size and echotexture.
Left ovary: Visibility: The ovary appears normal in size and echotexture.
Diagnosis based on ultrasound findings: viable intrauterine pregnancy.
There is a gestation sac within the uterus with a fetal pole measuring 3.4mm, which is equivalent to 5+4
weeks gestation. The fetal heart pulsastion is present, but beating slowly. Adnexae / pOD clear. Rescan.

I was told to make an appointment for 2 weeks time (which is this Thursday) but to expect to miscarry in the meantime? I have had no bleeding or any other ominous signs. I was also told not to make a booking appointment with the midwife as the chances of this pregnancy being successful are none existent, I can only assume this is based on my age?

I feel as though my life has been on hold, am unable to work and just want to know what is going on...........

Any advice would be much appreciated.

I am no expert but reading the blurb you have there it seems their concern is:

because you have been in gestation for just over 7 weeks but the size of the foetus/gestational sac is only just over 5 weeks.

Also they say the heart is beating but only slowly.

I don't know how old you are but the info you have put there doesn't refer to it and only refers to those two points.

I am so sorry you are in such a position as to have been told to lose your baby and what a hideous position to be in. I only hope you have someone to care for you through this.

I think it is pretty poor they said this to you without some kind of explanation or time for you to ask questions at the very least. Can you call your midwife team and discuss.

Hope someone else can help more.

Best of luck

p.s is there someone at work you could confide in to have some pressure taken off you in the meantime? :)

It's a viable pregnancy, your baby is smaller than expected for your dates. They are giving you worst case scenario. I had similar with my son, had to go away for two weeks, rescanned and my dates were slightly out. He is now a healthy three year old. Unfortunately it's one of those things you have no control over, fingers crossed in two weeks time you will have a better scan.

I'm so sorry you are going through all this stress and heartache.

I'm not an expert, but the concern seems to be that the bpm is quite slow for the gestational age. The fetal heartbeat starts at around 5 weeks, and is usually less than 85 bpm initially. It then increases rapidly. The uncertainty about your dates may change things though.

It's awful that things weren't explained to you in more detail. You should contact your local midwife team, who I'm sure would be able to advise you further, or even speak to your doctor. The worry can't be good for you.

Wishing good things for you. x

Thank you for your replies.

I don't have a midwife as I haven't had a booking appointment. Tried to get an appointment to see Doctor this morning but fully booked. I feel as though I am in limbo, it all seems so surreal. One minute I think I am ok and the next I am sobbing uncontrollably. This wasn't a planned pregnancy but was very much wanted. I am 45 now so this really was the last chance.

Physically I know I can get through this but emotionally, I'm not sure. I don't really have anyone to confide in which makes things worse. I am putting on a brave face to the close friends who know, but inside I am in pieces.

I just want this nightmare to end.

Have no medical knowledge but didn't want to read and run. I would have thought if you are 45 then it is entirely possible (given how hormones start playing up in the 40s) that your dates might well be later and therefore what they saw was normal for the gestational age you actually are. I hope Thursday brings good news. .

Oh vv :(

I'm sure your friends wouldn't want you to put a brave face on for them - they would want to be there for you. Please think about opening up to one of them, because RL support could really help while you are in this awful holding pattern.

What a shame that you couldn't get an appointment today. Keep trying (do they have emergency same day appointments?), and in the meantime be very kind to yourself.

It might not mean much, but I'm keeping hopeful for you.

I've been to EPU confirmed no heart beat but Doctor was very cold and clinical and made the comment, 'it was never a normal pregnancy'....... Thanks for letting me know that.

Feel numb. I haven't spoken to, or told anyone yet, as I went alone.

Appointment for D&C next week.

vvconfused I am so sorry.

I'm so sorry :(

I'm so sorry that this has happened to you. I had a similar experience in that at my 12 week scan there was no heartbeat and I then had a D&C. It was a truly horrible thing to go through but I just wanted to also say that I found speaking to other people really helpful - everyone I told was amazing and so many people had been through similar experiences (but I would have never known). I had told noone of the pregnancy (except DP) so it was awful telling people the news but it did make me feel better and made me feel blessed to have such supportive friends & family. FWIW I went on to have a normal pregnancy subsequently although I appreciate that you are also worried about your age. Please talk to someone in RL and also take some time off work if you need it and rest/get out in the countryside - whatever it takes to come to terms with it.

Am unable to sleep but did manage a few hours earlier with the aid of some sleeping tablets.

I've still not told anyone. Am considering making a private appointment to get it over and done with later today.

From the information I have gathered it seems the procedure at Marie Stopes will be identical to the one I have planned next week, can someone confirm this is the case? My mind and brain don't seem to be able to function at the moment.

The thought of maybe having to do it alone at home terrifies me and would rather be able to have some final closure.

One thing that I am getting really upset about is, the Doctor at the hospital yesterday seemed reluctant to answer my questions on how the 'material' that is removed will be disposed of. I know it may seem a silly question to him but that is my baby and the thought of it being classed as 'clinical waste' is upsetting me more than anything else at the moment.

I know exactly what you mean. When I had my silent miscarriage I hated the idea of the baby still being inside me after I found out it had died. But then when it came to having the procedure, which for me was 5 days later, I got really upset because I didn't want to let it go. I also asked about the remains and had a very harsh reply from a doctor with no bedside manner. In the end my husband and I dedicated a new sapling through the woodland trust in memory of the baby. It helps us to have somewhere to go to visit the baby and to remember.

I'm sorry for your loss.

Vv I'm sorry to hear of your loss :( I just though id pop on and say that when I have had my erpc(s) I've always been told that all foetal matter has to be collected and then cremated seperately at a proper Crematorium, not in a hospital incinerator. I know that doesnt bring much comfort but I always liked to imagine all the babies together.

I hope you're being kind to yourself. Miscarriages are horrible :(

Xx

I just want answers. After the doctors remark, 'it was never a normal pregnancy' I need to know why. What indications did they have that I wasn't told? I had a gut feeling there was something not right and that certain questions were brushed aside and the more I think about it, the more I feel the need to know.

Actually Methe, the doctor never did answer that particular question, just told me it was no concern of mine.............

I was left alone in a room for about 20 mins then another doctor came and asked me sign a form, which I did although I don't have any idea what it was. I think I was and still am in shock, and am just waiting for the reality to hit me.

Do you think by saying it wasn't a normal pregnancy, the doctor was referring to there being something wrong with the baby which is why you have maybe miscarried? When it happens so early on one of the hardest things can be not knowing why. I used to go over and over it in my head trying to see if there had been signs or if I had done something to cause it. But usually it is a chromosomal abnormality, so maybe the doctor was saying that.

I think it is terrible the way the women who've miscarried are often treated by the NHS. I had an awful experience and was treated with very little compassion - to the extent that when I was pregnant with DD I did everything privately until after the 12 week scan. So I totally understand how you are feeling - they never seemed to have time to answer questions. Can you call the epu and ask a nurse to call you back when they have some time? You are entitled to know exactly what is going to happen. You can go privately - I used somewhere amazing in London if you are based there? But the D&C procedure is usually done in a hospital I think.

I agree the doctor probably meant it was a chromosomal abnormality which apparently is usually the cause of early miscarriage. I don't think they'll test it until you've had 3 miscarriages and even then they don't often get answers apparently.

I know I said this before but I really think it would help to get some support in RL. Is there someone who can hold your hand through this and have you at least got someone who will come with you for the D&C? Sending you virtual hugs

I think I just prefer to be alone and will be going alone to the hospital next week. I feel that if I try and explain how I am feeling to anyone, I will just loose the plot completely.

No answers are going to bring my baby back so there is probably no point in asking them.

My concern at the moment is telling work. I had to notify them as soon as I was pregnant as it is policy. That in itself almost felt like I was tempting fate. Knowing my employers they will probably expect me back to work a couple of days after the operation and I cannot see them being compassionate about the emotional side of things. I am an easily replaceable number, so yet another worry to think about.

That really isn't good about having to rush back to work. You poor thing. But you really should take someone with you to the hospital. The procedure is usually under sedation so you will need help to get home.

Have started bleeding this afternoon, more dark than bright red. Pains in back and right side which I assume are going to get worse. Please can someone tell me what to expect? I've got 2 DD so know what labour is like but will this be in anyway comparable to the pain I went through then?

Am worried about seeing 'something' as I think that would be the last straw for me to deal with.

Hi guys,

Im so sorry I know this is an old thread but I cant find how to create a new one:(. Seeing as you've all been very helpful I was wondering if you could help me?

I went for an early pregnancy scan today and I should be 5+2 weeks. My gestation sac was in the right place but was measuring at 5.4mm x 5.2 mm!! Is this normal? Im so worried as you have all been.

Thank you to anyone who replies

xxx

VV i've only just read through. I am so so sorry of your loss :( I know what your going through I had a miscarriage in March this year rips out your heart. I hope all is ok now it will never go away :( but gets easier xxxxx

VV i've only just read through. I am so so sorry of your loss :( I know what your going through I had a miscarriage in March this year rips out your heart. I hope all is ok now it will never go away :( but gets easier xxxxx

to the original poster, I hope you are ok.it must have been awful. I hope you confided in someone.
to keys I am sorry I really don't know. I have a healthy 2 year old who caused us a lot of stress by not being as big as he should of been at nearly scan. from what I have read it always seems to be quite unreliable scans this early, please try not to worry and hopefully someone with more medical knowledge than me will reply x