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Miscarriage/pregnancy loss

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Found out had a mmc at 11+4 (measuring 6 wks approx)

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Maddikins · 10/01/2011 18:07

I have had some spotting since Saturday night and had a scan at epau today (was due my 12 week scan 19th when I would have been almost 13 weeks).

I had to have an internal scan and have been told that the fetal pole measurement was approx 6 to 8 weeks max. The area the foetus grows in is 11 week size which is what I am. I have to go back in 10 days to be rescanned but I am certain of my dates and seeing as the sizes don't correspond I know the baby has died.

I felt absolutely ill from 5 - 8 weeks then it suddenly stopped and I've had a bad feeling that the baby had died ever since as this was nothing like my experience with dds pregnancy. Everyone just kept telling me each pregnancies different (which I know is true) but I just had a feeling.

I've been told that since I've started spotting and I havent felt at all pregnant, if that makes any sense, for a few days now that its quite likely I'll begin to miscarry in the next 10 days.

What I'm wondering is if it would be possible to have a D&C or ERPC (not sure what the diff is) sooner than this as I have a 3 year old and really just feel like I want to get past this and not feel like I'm just waiting to miscarry. I'm hoping I miscarry naturally within the next few days but really hate the idea of having to wait another few weeks seeing as it's almost 6 weeks and I've only just started spotting.

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BellaBearisWideAwake · 10/01/2011 18:10

You poor thing. Very similar to what I had (dates, scans, toddler - everything!). I couldn't 'just' have an ERPC as they had to wait for proof, ie lack of growth over a time period, (or would have accepted no heartbeat with foetus over a certain size, which it wasn't). SO I had to wait which was horrible. Then I started to bleed very very heavily so I wnt to A&E, got admitted and had ERPC. Wish I could have just had one to start with. I knew my dates, knew it had died, but they had their protocol (for a reason, I know).

Absolutely horrible situation to be in. Hope it sorts out.
xx

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Maddikins · 10/01/2011 18:22

I'm in exactly the same position, they say I have to have the rescan in 10 days to confirm that there is no growth. I can understand why they have to do this in case the dates were wrong but wish I could make a decision myself.

I think I am just dreading the actual miscarriage as I don't really have any idea what to expect, I know the foetus itself will be practially nothing as it stopped growing so early on but not sure what to expect in terms of blood loss. I have taken this week off work (I only work 2 days) but I feel like I want to keep busy but don't want to be out with dd somewhere and start bleeding heavily. I'm hoping that seeing as I've started spotting it will happen in the next couple of days whilst dd is at nursery.

Can I ask if you have tried again since your mmc? If dp agrees I would like to ttc asap but not sure how long I will need to wait.

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BellaBearisWideAwake · 10/01/2011 18:47

I did try again, after my next period which was 3 weeks later, it took two more cycles I think and I'm currently 28 weeks. MMC was in May and was pg by July

I also had a mc at six weeks (not missed) before DS, and it took 4 months after that to get pregnant

There was A LOT of bleeding (plus, the ERPC didn't actually work, and I actually mc'ed a week later - in the park with DS! Quite unlikely and unlucky, but just to point out that ERPC is infallible) Hardly any bleeding in between though. It was quite sudden. Horrible situation to be in though.

I'm not sure, but could you have ERPC privately? Or have one as an 'abortion'. I really don't know the ins and outs I'm afraid.

But I do know that if you start bleeding heavily and have to change pads twice in 30 mins, then please please go to A&E.

Look after yourself
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Maddikins · 10/01/2011 18:59

Thank you, I'm thinking I'll see what happens this week and if nothing make an appointment to see my gp for next Monday to see if I can be referred for a ERPC.

The epau gave me a number to ring if I start to get very heavy bleeding or to go to A&E.

I feel better knowing that I can ttc pretty soon and the chances are, go on to have another normal pregnancy. We only started to ttc this time in October and I was pregnant by November.

Thanks for your advice.
xx

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hairyfairylights · 10/01/2011 19:24

So sorry for your loss. I have been there too.

I opeted for a ERPC, even though they recommended waiting. I did make sure of a second scan first though.

I told them the truth, which was that I could not emotionally cope with waiting/medical route.

hairyfairylights · 10/01/2011 19:25

PS: I just phoned the EPU up and told them that I could not cope and would like an ERPC, and they were fine with it and booked me in.

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Maddikins · 10/01/2011 20:05

I might do that if nothing has happened in a few days, spotting seems to have stopped so I have no idea if that means it could be ages before I miscarry or if it will just happen suddenly.

I do think the waiting when I know it's been gone 6 weeks already is awful and I'd rather have it over with as soon as possible.

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hairyfairylights · 10/01/2011 20:09

That was how I felt. Good luck with it all, and do take gentle care of yourself. We are here if you need us.

BellaBearisWideAwake · 10/01/2011 20:52

Yes me too.

UpsyDaisyDo · 11/01/2011 17:13

I started bleeding yesterday, had an internal scan at the epau today know that I've had an mmc. Hospital won't diagnose tho because they say it could be an early pregnancy (baby measure 4.9mm)which I think she said is less than 6 weeks. I know the date of conception (there is only one day that it could have been) makes me 11+5. I feel completely out of sorts (putting it mildly). Have another scan scheduled for next week but don't know what to expect in the meantime. Am supposed to be at work for the rest of the week but don't know if I should take the week off and hope it passes or risk miscarrying at work.

Maddikins how are you now?

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Maddikins · 11/01/2011 22:17

Thats the same situation as me, I'm certain of my dates so I see no point in having to wait the 10 days but I know they have to make sure.

I was supposed to be in work today and tomorrow but my dp rang and explained what had happened. I couldn't have faced going in and having to tell people and was also worried I'd start to miscarry whilst at work.

I havent had any more spotting or any cramps
so I'm starting to think its going to take ages, I'm going to make a drs appt if nothing has happened by Thursday and ask to be referred for an erpc.

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UpsyDaisyDo · 12/01/2011 09:56

I haven't gone in today either Maddikins. I was going to (I thought it would help me take my mind off things) but when I emailed my boss he said he didn't think it was a good idea. I was worried too that I'd start miscarry at work. I'm still bleeding now - not heavily but I have some pain like the start of a period. Like you tho I'd just rather have an erpc and get it over with. My dates are virtually identical to yours - I would have been 11+6 today. Feel completely numb. Been trying to get through to GP but line is permanently engaged.

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Maddikins · 12/01/2011 20:32

Well still no sign of anything happening with me so looks like I'll be off work for another week at least.

I feel fine in myself. I'm just trying to think of it as just one of them things and not dwell on it, although thats a bit difficult when I feel like I'm just waiting to miscarry. Really want it all over with so we can ttc again, also so I can stop putting things on hold, I want to be back to normal. At the moment when I mention going into town or taking dd somewhere people are offering to come with me, which is nice of them but not really practical indefinitely.

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UpsyDaisyDo · 13/01/2011 10:05

Oh Maddi I know exactly how you feel. The waiting is just horrible. I managed to get through to my GP this morning to be told I can have an appointment on Monday. My scan is on Tuesday anyway so doesn't look like I'll be getting referred for erpc any sooner. I don't have the energy or motivation to do anything other than the school run at the moment.

dizzy55 · 13/01/2011 11:18

Hi Maddikins,

I am so sorry. Having just had had a miscarriage myself at 12 weeks to the day (new years day) all I can say is try and read as much info as you can surrounding what to expect. Mine was unexpected and lasted 5 days..I was so poorly I couldn't think. I found the events quite scary as they unfolded, but since reading about afterwards the symptoms were completely normal...pains..loss....hospitalisation...aftr pains. i was lucky it happened naturally in the end. Ironically if I'd only known a bit more before I would have coped a lot better with all the physical stuff that happened(and thus a lot better mentally). I just read a book called 'Miscarriage. What every woman needs to know (by prof Lesley regan). this has helped hugely. Maybe you even read this on the amazon site itself?

I am hugely encouraged by the others stories of getting pregnant again afterward.

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Maddikins · 13/01/2011 12:58

I rang my Drs this morning and have an appt tomorrow. My Dp doesn't think they will refer me for an erpc before I've had my second scan so I'm not too hopeful but going to ask anyway.

I'll order that book, I'm the sort of person who likes to know as much as poosible so it will probably help.

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Yarnie · 13/01/2011 13:11

Hi Maddikins

Just thought I'd offer my best wishes to you at this difficult time.

I had a somewhat similar experience last November when I had a MMC at 10 weeks (I measured 7 weeks).

I assume that there was a HB visible at your scan, but the measurements didn't fit with your dates? I think 10 days is a long time to wait for another scan, especially if your symptoms have tailed off. I would go to A&E, explain your situation and ask for a scan. The fact that you have a toddler to think of should make them sympathetic.

When I had my MMC the first scan showed no heartbeat and they were going to make me wait for the second opinion scan, but I have a 20 month old and insisted I couldn't wait. Like you, I knew I wanted an ERPC and did not want to miscarry in some random place with my toddler. I was given a scan the next morning.

I'm not sure that your GP will be able to speed things up, but I would recommend trying A&E or a different EPAU.

dessen · 13/01/2011 13:19

Maddikins - so sorry for you. What a difficult & awful time. Why are they making you wait for a scan in this limbo? could you go back & ask to have one.

UpsyDaisyDo · 13/01/2011 15:43

I was told I had to wait 10 days because the measurements of the baby were too small to warrant a heartbeat (ie less than 6 weeks) so it could still be an early pregnancy. (It's not - I like Maddikins am sure of my dates. I'm 12+0) I literally pleaded with the sonographer but she just said that it was hospital policy not to give EPRC until they were 100% sure it wasn't an early pregnancy. I can only assume that's why you've been told to wait too.

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Maddikins · 13/01/2011 16:30

At the scan they said from the measurements it had almost certainly stopped growing at 6 weeks and there was no heartbeat. The sonographer said it could have been slightly later and the fact that it was now weeks later meant that there could have been "shrinkage". She said herself there was almost no chance that this could go on to be a healthy pregnancy but that they had to rescan in 10 days (and has to be at least a week to make sure there has not been any growth).

I need to see my gp for a sick note anyway as there is no way I'll be back at work by next week considering there is still nothing happening so I'm going to ask her opinion regards having an ercp or waiting for it to happen naturally.

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