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Is this peri?

14 replies

Ncagain41 · 01/09/2024 12:14

I'm 41 and wondering if what I'm experiencing is the start of it. My cycles have become slightly irregular over the last few months (26 or 32 days instead of the usual 28), sometimes I can't control my body temp - I'll get super hot all of a sudden, I don't get sweaty as such but just need to pop outside to cool down a bit - my bed sheets feel like they're on fire at night but then I've always been a hot sleeper...but the most concerning thing for me is that I've been forgetting things. I usually have an incredibly good memory, I never forget anything, but there have been things I've done recently that I don't recall doing at all.

Does it sound like it could be the start, and at what point do I speak to my GP? When things become unmanageable? I have no idea about any of this stuff really!

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LostittoBostik · 01/09/2024 12:18

Following as I'm 42 and in a similar position. Also brain fog and exhaustion means I'm finding it hard to work my work done easily inside my allotted working hours (around schools runs etc - I'm self employed)

I'm also struggling with extremely stiff ankles after sleeping and rest. I feel about 90 if I have to get up fast in the night (eg to attend to one of my kids having a nightmare) - I can barely walk.

But I'm seeing a gynae about fibroid treatment she absolutely rubbished the idea it could be peri at 42, and at that point I wondered if I'd been manipulated by all the menopause marketing about at the moment

LostittoBostik · 01/09/2024 12:18

*get my work done

Anisty · 01/09/2024 12:21

Sounds like it. You don't need to see a GP unless you're not coping.

However, I have to say, HRT is amazing stuff! Don't suffer if it's affecting your life quality.

Anisty · 01/09/2024 12:26

LostittoBostik · 01/09/2024 12:18

Following as I'm 42 and in a similar position. Also brain fog and exhaustion means I'm finding it hard to work my work done easily inside my allotted working hours (around schools runs etc - I'm self employed)

I'm also struggling with extremely stiff ankles after sleeping and rest. I feel about 90 if I have to get up fast in the night (eg to attend to one of my kids having a nightmare) - I can barely walk.

But I'm seeing a gynae about fibroid treatment she absolutely rubbished the idea it could be peri at 42, and at that point I wondered if I'd been manipulated by all the menopause marketing about at the moment

Of course it can be peri at 42!!! What is she talking about?! I was peri by 41 and blood tests confirmed it. Had my last period at 48 but, when i was still getting bad symptoms at 50, after 9 years i went on hrt. Now 57, if i forget to take the hrt for 2 or 3 days, symptoms return.

So i plan to be on hrt for life. You can (or used to be able to!) get a blood test at the gp to check - it is a simple and cheap test so do ask.

LostittoBostik · 01/09/2024 12:35

@Anisty is it ok to be on HRT for life? One of the reasons I didn't think it was worth discussing yet is because I thought there was a limit and I didn't want to have to stop before I was truly through it.

I've also heard some people saying you always go through the symptoms when you come off Hrt anyway but they last less time once your already post menopause.

I guess I should at least have my ankles looked at by a dr to rule out osteoarthritis .

But tbh both my kids have multiple health issues and I spend my weeks in and out of hospital clinics and frankly I can't bear to add more appointments to my life unless it's really urgent 😒

Anisty · 01/09/2024 14:59

LostittoBostik · 01/09/2024 12:35

@Anisty is it ok to be on HRT for life? One of the reasons I didn't think it was worth discussing yet is because I thought there was a limit and I didn't want to have to stop before I was truly through it.

I've also heard some people saying you always go through the symptoms when you come off Hrt anyway but they last less time once your already post menopause.

I guess I should at least have my ankles looked at by a dr to rule out osteoarthritis .

But tbh both my kids have multiple health issues and I spend my weeks in and out of hospital clinics and frankly I can't bear to add more appointments to my life unless it's really urgent 😒

No idea but i have no intention of coming off it. Tbh, i coped just as well as anyone with the flushes and sweats but, when i was about 49 an anxiety came on me out of the blue for no reason. I have no history of anxiety, this was new to me. I struggled on for a good 18 months. Gp was useless. In the end a friend said could it be menopause.

I asked to go on hrt and gp sick of the sight of me by then so she prescribed femi conti. Within 3 weeks, i physically felt the anxiety lift away.

There are risks to hrt but when life is unliveable, you take anything. Honestly, if i get hrt induced cancer, stroke, anything, i will never regret going on hrt as it has given me years of my life back to me.

You need to weigh things up as an individual

JustLaura · 01/09/2024 21:58

Anisty · 01/09/2024 14:59

No idea but i have no intention of coming off it. Tbh, i coped just as well as anyone with the flushes and sweats but, when i was about 49 an anxiety came on me out of the blue for no reason. I have no history of anxiety, this was new to me. I struggled on for a good 18 months. Gp was useless. In the end a friend said could it be menopause.

I asked to go on hrt and gp sick of the sight of me by then so she prescribed femi conti. Within 3 weeks, i physically felt the anxiety lift away.

There are risks to hrt but when life is unliveable, you take anything. Honestly, if i get hrt induced cancer, stroke, anything, i will never regret going on hrt as it has given me years of my life back to me.

You need to weigh things up as an individual

Thanks @Anisty

I have just started a thread on my own symptoms.

Can you describe the anxiety? Out of the blue/for no reason? E.g. watching TV and it happens?

Thanks

Anisty · 02/09/2024 00:53

JustLaura · 01/09/2024 21:58

Thanks @Anisty

I have just started a thread on my own symptoms.

Can you describe the anxiety? Out of the blue/for no reason? E.g. watching TV and it happens?

Thanks

Well, what happened to me was that back in 2015, i was a good year after my periods had fully stopped. I was driving along the motorway one sunny june day without a care in the world. Nothing at all had happened, no other cars in sight in fact; i had the road to myself. Car running well. I was just on my own.

Literally, there was no cause for alarm at all when i was suddenly gripped by a feeling of intense anxiety.

My stomach knotted up and i felt that i wasn't seeing things properly in my right field of vision. Yet when i covered my left eye, i could see perfectly well.

This funny feeling continued over the next few days and i thought i had better go to the gp to see if i should be driving.

So he did those touch your nose with one eye closed tests and all was well. And advised me to go to the optician.

Again, all fine.

So i carried on driving because i knew if i stopped driving, i might never start again. And i never got tooted at, i could still park the car perfectly well so i reasoned my spatial awareness must be fine.

But all the time i was driving (no lane assist on the car) i was constantly checking my mirrors and the lane markings. Something i had never done obsessively before. And then i started getting sweats and palpitations.

And then it spread to all areas of my life pretty quickly. So i was getting these feelings just in my house too. And the whole time my stomach stayed in a painful knot all my waking hours. The second i woke in the morning, the knot was there and stayed the whole day.

I am one of those people, when i have a worry, i have to tell everyone! The only time i got any relief from this knot was when i was distracted in deep convo with pals.

So - back to the gp. I had a brain scan - all normal. Visual fields tested. Normal.

So it was me that eventually said to my gp - could this be psychological because i am more that happy to take anti anxiety pills if you think it is.

But my gp has known me for years and she did not think it was psychological.

After about a year of suffering, i even said to her i want to go on meds for anxiety. But she would not prescribe, saying it was not clinical anxiety (i really think she had no clue how my life was affected)

Meanwhile, i am talking anything herbal - kalms, that rescue remedy but nothing helped except one which i forget the name of now but it had 5 in the name. I got it off amazon; could have been anything!!

Finally, my friend suggested it could be the menopause.

It just so happened i had a smear test shortly after speaking to my friend and the nurse made the mistake of asking how i was.

I told her the full story and said i wanted to try hrt.

She put it in my notes for the gp.

The gp was reluctant to prescribe (this was 2017, pre Davina) and went on about risks. Honestly, if the risk of cancer had been 95% i would still have gone ahead. I was that desperate.

Very, very fortunately the first hrt tried suited me fine. Within 3 weeks, the anxiety just lifted off.

The joy of driving, my eyes were fine again! I dont even like driving much but i got in my car and drove miles that day!!

Honestly, i felt back to my old self after 18 months.

So - there's the story!

JustLaura · 02/09/2024 17:49

Thanks @Anisty

It's really helpful to read examples of what's happening to others and how they describe it.

Looking back now I'm realising things like this have been happening for a while before physical symptoms started.

I was having a really stressful time at work for an extended period of time. As soon as I woke up I felt in pieces emotionally and the commute to work was horrendous as I'd feel sick and sorry to be blunt, I would be retching while driving some days and have to pull over to calm down... it was terrible.

I think the anxiety is worse than the physical symptoms some days.

I keep thinking my GP is missing something and that I'm seriously ill but then I can sometimes reason with myself that this may be anxiety.

LostittoBostik · 02/09/2024 17:59

Totally understand @Anisty

It's the anxiety side that I'm really not looking forward to. My mother was so mentally ill during menopause she couldn't work for 3 years.

I have a history of anxiety and OCD so I'm concerned. Having said that, doctors have confirmed menstrual hormones cause a lot of my issues (including cystic acne from age 21 and no let up in 40s) so I was half hoping I might get some relief when cycles stop.

LostittoBostik · 02/09/2024 18:04

Sorry to hear you're suffering @JustLaura

Definitely go back and have another chat. You should be able to try hrt or sertraline or both for such severe anxiety symptoms.

Tbh I suffer a bit like this already... I don't take any meds, but I've always struggled with anxiety since a shocking bereavement in my 20s. That feeling that something awful is about to happen never really leaves me. Therapy hasn't helped much, I just know now to recognise and rationalise my physical feelings now until they go.

Working from home helped ie having more control over my time and not feeling forced to prove myself constantly at work

Aquamarine1029 · 02/09/2024 18:07

LostittoBostik · 01/09/2024 12:18

Following as I'm 42 and in a similar position. Also brain fog and exhaustion means I'm finding it hard to work my work done easily inside my allotted working hours (around schools runs etc - I'm self employed)

I'm also struggling with extremely stiff ankles after sleeping and rest. I feel about 90 if I have to get up fast in the night (eg to attend to one of my kids having a nightmare) - I can barely walk.

But I'm seeing a gynae about fibroid treatment she absolutely rubbished the idea it could be peri at 42, and at that point I wondered if I'd been manipulated by all the menopause marketing about at the moment

You need a new gynae immediately. It's shocking how stupid they are. Peri in your early 40's is very, very common, and the sooner you start HRT the better it is for your home and heart health.

I strongly recommend going to a private clinic for proper guidance.

Apileofballyhoo · 02/09/2024 18:16

Absolutely is peri. I'm another hrt for life woman. I'm in Ireland and my GP gave me the you can only be on it for 5 years speech but that is nonsense. You have the classic symptoms that GPs love, erratic periods and hot flushes, so it should be easier to get a diagnosis. Be aware that blood tests aren't always reliable as hormone levels fluctuate during the menstrual cycle and early on in peri you might not have a high level of FSH which is how they measure menopause. As far as I know the earlier you start hrt the better in that it is less shocking to the system and easier to get dosage right.

Anisty · 02/09/2024 18:41

Interestingly enough, although i don't have a history of anxiety, depression or any menstrual problems at all - after the birth of my first baby i got puerperal psychosis really severe. I was in hospital very fast and had ECT as i was totally detatched from reality. But that ect zapped me back to the real world and i went on with my life (and had more kids) no problem.

I do wonder if i am very badly affected by big hormone shifts though as it was about 6 months after my periods stopped entirely that this came on.

The only other time i felt emotional for no reason was on the Marvelon contraceptive Pill - cried all the time for the 3 weeks i was on it.

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