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Can I attribute most of these symptoms to perimenopause or is it something else?

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Afternoonsnooze · 17/04/2024 09:27

Or a combination of everything going on in my life?

I am literally at breaking point with my physical and mental health and am really not sure if perimenopause is to blame for the majority of this or not but I not longer know what to do or who to seek help from (and apologies in advanced if this may be a little long winded).

I have not long turned 51 and for the last 6 years my physical and mental health has been really affecting me and it is getting worse by the day.

I have always suffered from anxiety and depression but have now escalated to the point that I no longer no what to do, I’m in such turmoil every day. I dread getting up.
None of this is helped by the fact I help look after my elderly mum who has Alzheimer’s and has recently been diagnosed with advanced breast cancer and having to constantly battle with my dad who is a tight-arsed awkward old man at times and fails to see the stress I am under (I had a meltdown a few weeks ago which I started a thread about and due to the lovely advice given I have organised more help etc so hopefully that will help somewhat).

The physical issues are really getting me down. After decades of gynae issues and endless gynae procedures (including a failed uterine ablation which has left me in so much pain), I have discovered (through my own investigations, no thanks to my gynaecologist) that I have deep endometriosis and diffuse adenomyosis so am looking at the prospect of more procedures and a possible hysterectomy (I have an appointment with an endometriosis gynae tomorrow to find out what the heck is going on).

I have also suffered from gut issues and IBS for decades. To say these issues have exacerbated over the last few years is an understatement.
My digestive system is the bane of my life and completely controls everything right now. I’m having an awful time and despite endless gastro tests, all comes back ok and I’m just left to put up with things. I have tried everything (I mean everything) advised for good gut health/IBS control to no avail. I currently follow a very boring, low fodmap diet and avoid all my known triggers yet still have issues but I could literally eat dust and still have issue. I am certain my out of whack hormones are driving this. I have such unpredictable guts and can have attacks of diarrhoea out of the blue, can be constipated mid cycle, daily gurglings, growling, bloating, excessive gas, feel so nauseous with a gnawing feeling in my gut especially mid cycle, acid, burping, pain. All of this can even wake me during the night or stop me sleeping. There really isn’t a part of my digestive system unaffected and I’m getting to the point of being scared to leave the house.

On top of all the above have a whole host of symptoms these days including,

A red and blotchy face
Itchy skin and last few weeks a very itchy left armpit and all though no redness, dryness, lumps or bumps I am petrified about this since my mums bc diagnosis.
Tinnitus which is driving me to insanity
Smelling cigarette smoke (mainly mid cycle and before period). It worries me that it’s dementia (mum’s first symptom was lose of smell)
TMJ disorder which I’ve had years but has become worse
Sore tongue (but could be related to jaw tension and teeth clenching?)
Blocked right nostril and a lot of catarrh/mucus
Knackered - so so so bloody knackered
Ache all over some days, especially back and legs (no obvious reason for this)
Complete lose of libido (but tbh that’s the last of my worries right now as
feel too crap for sex)
Can go weeks sleeping well then endless broken nights sleep

Weirdly hardly any hot sweats or night sweats unless it’s hot weather!

My mental health is now completely shot to bits. I can’t cope with so much, everything overwhelms me, I’m letting housework build up, bills go unpaid etc. I find work a struggle and would love to leave. I could literally sit and stare at a wall all day doing nothing. I worry about everyone and everything (dc now teens and I worry all the time about them). Worry about my parents and the shit which comes from looking after them etc. My health anxiety is in overdrive. I can not rest or relax and feel as though I have an engine driving me all the time. It’s exhausting. I also have the rage alot everything and everyone angers me.

I appreciate there is a bit going on in my life right now and being a naturally anxious and angsty person is certainly not helping my issues but I wonder how much of this is being made worse by me being in perimenopause?

I don’t know what to do or what to take (currently on no meds other than occasional gut stuff). I have had mixed messages about taking HRT with endometriosis (one gynae said no, another said yes) and have asked on several endo support groups, the general consensus on there was that hrt exacerbated most of their symptoms. I also worry about the bc risk which I know is small but now mum has been diagnosed with bc that really does worry me but I also don’t want the dementia, heart disease and osteoporosis that my poor mum suffers from either - urgh!

My brain is so jumbled and muddled right now that I just can not think straight.

Could most of my issues be made worse by peri? I certainly am beginning to think the endometriosis and gut issues are being driven by my hormones but who really knows? What the hell can I do to try and get back on track?

I so stupidly and naively thought as I have a low bmi, have never smoked or drank and exercise I’d breeze through peri. Well that thought process has well and truly bit me on the arse!

Can anyone with any experience help me….please.

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Afternoonsnooze · 18/04/2024 09:32

Misthios · 18/04/2024 09:06

It's difficult to disentangle what is going on, I know first hand about the strain of having a parent with dementia and trying to deal with everyday life stuff too. It's not easy.

I really think you should see your GP. But a lot of what you say is ringing bells with me - the broken sleep, aching jaw, tiredness, achiness, bowel issues. All menopause related in my case. And HRT has sorted it out. I would also advise asking for thyroid level checks as there is a huge crossover in symptoms caused by underactive thyroid which can also cause itchy skin, bowel issues and sleep issues (I have a medicated thyroid too!!)

The alternative remedies - well maybe, but I'd always go for the proven medical route first. So back to GP. Ask for a full range of blood tests on your thyroid, iron levels and anything else they think is worth running. If that all comes back normal, then talk about tweaking your current medication or adding in HRT.

You can feel better and you do not have to feel like this.

I have recently had a full blood panel taken as I was concerned about possible thyroid issues. My grandad had hyperthyroidism as does my mum. My sister has hypothyroidism and parathyroid disease and I’d heard thyroid issues can run in families but GP says it has come back within range. She also said everything else was within range. I’ve checked on my online GP records and although they are within NHS range some are a little low but because they are still classed as ‘in range’ they won’t do anything about it.

I have an appointment with the Endo gynae this afternoon. If he agrees that I can try hrt I will give it a go.

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Afternoonsnooze · 18/04/2024 09:38

JinglingSpringbells · 18/04/2024 09:22

@Afternoonsnooze if you have not eaten dairy for 20 years, how are you getting enough calcium?

Are you making sure you get enough from other sources? If you are also on the FODMAP diet which excluded a lot of vegetables and pulses, it's possible you are not getting enough.

Calcium supplements are not recommended now as there is evidence they can cause heart issues (the calcium ends up in the arteries.)

If you think you are lactose intolerant, ask your GP for some proper tests (there is a simple breath test that's used.)

Also, maybe talk to the Royal Osteoporosis Society helpline on diet (or see their website) because osteoporosis is often hereditary and you are at risk anyway.

I'd suggest you ask your GP to refer you for a DEXA scan on your bones. You're eligible due to your family history and with your gut issues you're adding more risk.

Under the guidance of my dietician I try to get as much naturally occurring calcium sources in me. I also take vitamin d and k2. And weight train.

I did the lactose test years ago and was positive hence the reason I’ve been dairy free for so long.

I was advised to have a Dexa scan as soon as I reached 50 due to mum having osteoporosis. It is ok atm so thankfully that’s good.

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Afternoonsnooze · 18/04/2024 09:39

squishee · 18/04/2024 09:18

Oh OP, I'm so sorry you're dealing with all this. I see one thing on your list which could have a quick fix: last few weeks a very itchy left armpit. Could it be that your deodorant is suddenly irritating your skin (as I know mine is now that I am peri age)? Have you tried different ones, or dropping it altogether for a bit, just to see if the itching is still there?

I’m currently trying a more natural type so fingers crossed on that one.

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RosieAway · 18/04/2024 09:40

blobby10 · 18/04/2024 08:33

@Afternoonsnooze when I first went on antidepressants, I had awful side effects on Sertraline for the first four days so changed to Citalopram and its been amazing. After previous side effects Dr advised tapering on so started with 10mg a day for a week then up to 20mg and I didn't have any issues. Maybe you could try this with the Fluoxetine?

Do you mind me asking what the side effects were on sertraline?

Afternoonsnooze · 18/04/2024 09:41

Thank you DailyFailstinks I have noticed that a lot of ladies on the endo support groups have gut issues too. Just hoping the endo hasn’t attached itself to my bowel area.

Can I ask if you take hrt? If so does it affect your endo at all?

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Boombatty · 18/04/2024 10:09

It could be hormones or endo, but all of your symptoms can also be caused by stress and anxiety. I have a whole host of physical symptoms that are caused by anxiety.

JinglingSpringbells · 18/04/2024 10:10

Thanks for your update @Afternoonsnooze You're getting a lot more help than I appreciated (ie the diet and gut health via UCLH).

I know you say you don't eat dairy but natural Greek yoghurt is low in lactose and a lot of people with IBS and doing the FODMAP can tolerate it.

Can you tolerate it?

You should definitely ask for a DEXA scan as bowel issues can cause malabsorption and this can affect calcium uptake.

Have you ever been tested for coeliac?

TBH if you are spending £50 a time at acupuncture or reflexology ( 1 session isn't going to do much - they often suggest weekly for 6 weeks) you could put that cost towards private meno care.

JinglingSpringbells · 18/04/2024 10:15

Afternoonsnooze · 18/04/2024 09:38

Under the guidance of my dietician I try to get as much naturally occurring calcium sources in me. I also take vitamin d and k2. And weight train.

I did the lactose test years ago and was positive hence the reason I’ve been dairy free for so long.

I was advised to have a Dexa scan as soon as I reached 50 due to mum having osteoporosis. It is ok atm so thankfully that’s good.

Ah okay :)

Looks as if you have had all the tests available.
You're getting a lot of help and support medically.

Sorry- x-d posts.

I think with hrt you've just got to suck it and see.
It's not a one-way street.
You can try 3 months and come off it it if makes things worse.
AND it's also your choice- the dr can advise but if you say 'I want to give this a go' they shouldn't refuse. Yes you may feel a bit worse, but it's not a case of 'do no harm' in the sense you'd be seriously ill.

DrawersOnTheDoors · 18/04/2024 10:31

Afternoonsnooze I know that insoluble fibre can cause IBS ppl a lot of trouble. Have you tried things like soup to up your intake of different veg? If you purée it, the insoluble fibre is not stressing out the lining of your gut.

I also have success eating earlier in the day, do you consider timing in your diary?

Sorry if you've tried these things already.

blobby10 · 18/04/2024 10:47

@RosieAway mine were terrible terrible nightmares and random feelings of fear during daylight. I only lasted four days before I went back to the GP. It was many years ago now but looking back I would probably have been OK if I had tapered up to the prescribed dosage.

Afternoonsnooze · 18/04/2024 10:57

Boombatty I’m certain the stress is having a massive impact.

Sorry JinglingSpringbells I should try experimenting with a little Greek yogurt, maybe a spoonful at a time, will definitely try this.

I’ve had a host of gastro tests including colonoscopies, scans and a gastroscope with biopsies for coeliac, was all clear.

The acupuncture was gifted to me by my dear friend for my birthday, it’s in voucher form.

I do think it is going to have to be a case of trying some hrt and see how I am with it. At the end of the day I just won’t know unless I try will I? Just wish I wasn’t so apprehensive about it all!

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JinglingSpringbells · 18/04/2024 11:01

@Afternoonsnooze I'm sending you a PM if that's okay.

Hoglet70 · 18/04/2024 17:36

@Afternoonsnooze I take Clomiperamine. One of the side effects is constipation!

Afternoonsnooze · 19/04/2024 20:30

Thank you Hoglet70 I’ve not come across that med before. I’ll look into that.

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RosieAway · 19/04/2024 20:52

Wondering how your appointment went OP?

Afternoonsnooze · 19/04/2024 23:46

RosieAway · 19/04/2024 20:52

Wondering how your appointment went OP?

Thank you for asking.

Ok (ish)I suppose?

He wouldn’t entertain the idea that my gut issues could possibly be connected to my endometriosis and/or the adenomyosis and so didn’t want to discuss that at all which was rather disappointing but I have my gastro follow up appointment next month so will ask her advice on that one.

He also didn’t appear overly clued up on HRT/endo either and wasn’t overly interested in discussing that either so looks as though I’m going to have to find the money somehow and pay to see a specialist in hrt and hopefully someone who is equally knowledgeable on gynae issues with hrt also.

He offered to do a laparoscopy but it will be over 12 months wait on the NHS, so I’ve asked to be out on the list and will just have to wait. In the meantime it’s a toss up of the mini pill which he said may or may not have any impact or Zoladex injections which will put me straight into menopause and can also weaken my bones. As my mum and other family members have osteoporosis this out me off a bit so I’m going to have to plump for the mini pill and will see him in 4 months to see how things are going.

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