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Are psychotic episodes linked to menopause?

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samantha69 · 16/02/2023 15:57

I have had 3 major psychotic episodes since 2016 up to 2019 it was devastating for my husband and daughter and very scary for me. I am also going through the menopause not currently on HRT but thinking about it. I take antipsychotic drugs but want to come off them. Anyone else been through this? Flowers

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Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 19:48

I was diagnosed at age 35 with POF since I had kids age 31 I went through acute psychotic episode age 32 during this period I am certain I was peri menopausal had occasions when my periods disappear or were very heavy. Also during my periods I was feeling like I'm Going crazy. I contacted once university because was thinking they do research in it I read a lot about menopause and psychosis. Nobody was interested they more interested in postpartum psychosis. I feel much better mentally since I'm menopausal. I'm on HRT.

samantha69 · 16/02/2023 19:52

Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 19:48

I was diagnosed at age 35 with POF since I had kids age 31 I went through acute psychotic episode age 32 during this period I am certain I was peri menopausal had occasions when my periods disappear or were very heavy. Also during my periods I was feeling like I'm Going crazy. I contacted once university because was thinking they do research in it I read a lot about menopause and psychosis. Nobody was interested they more interested in postpartum psychosis. I feel much better mentally since I'm menopausal. I'm on HRT.

Thank you for sharing, I do think it's something that we need to know more about and more research is needed . Thanks againSmile

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Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 19:55

There is definitely connection between psychosis and menopause

samantha69 · 16/02/2023 19:55

I agree totally !!

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Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 20:06

I was lucky one and had only one episode and recovered quickly but I know a few girls with schizo affective disorders and they going through ups and downs with illness I hope they find stable life when they reach meno

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 16/02/2023 20:15

I believe that I'm perimenopauseal, and I've had episodes where I think I'm losing touch with reality. Something takes over my body and I'm a monster. I've begged my Dr for help, was put on the pill, but it isn't doing me any good. I had a blood test but my hormones were not tested, I got a text saying I need a fasting blood test due to cholesterol and i emailed back saying my MH and perimenopauseal symptoms will kill me before cholesterol does. I'm screaming for help but no one is listening. It's just awful.

gogohmm · 16/02/2023 20:16

Anyone can have an episode at any age. They are not linked to any specific life stage.

Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 20:17

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 16/02/2023 20:15

I believe that I'm perimenopauseal, and I've had episodes where I think I'm losing touch with reality. Something takes over my body and I'm a monster. I've begged my Dr for help, was put on the pill, but it isn't doing me any good. I had a blood test but my hormones were not tested, I got a text saying I need a fasting blood test due to cholesterol and i emailed back saying my MH and perimenopauseal symptoms will kill me before cholesterol does. I'm screaming for help but no one is listening. It's just awful.

I had the same until completely stopped my periods

Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 20:19

gogohmm · 16/02/2023 20:16

Anyone can have an episode at any age. They are not linked to any specific life stage.

Psychosis can happen at any stage of life but we talking about menopause and psychosis. I went through it and all is based on my personal observations what was happening with me and my body and I truly believe there is strong connection.

samantha69 · 16/02/2023 20:20

You should definitely get a second opinion 🙏

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Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 20:23

samantha69 · 16/02/2023 20:20

You should definitely get a second opinion 🙏

No I'm ok now. I change a lot in my life diet, exercise, stable life and I'm content. It took me years of learning and trying lots of things but now I'm 44 and happy how I am.

OnMyWayToSenility · 16/02/2023 20:25

I'm 53 and most of my friend range from 45 to 62, I've never heard of psychosis in anyone due to menopause or peri menopause.

The only people who I have known had psychosis were in their 20's / 30's and mainly because of drugs and a history of physical and mental abuse or a propensity towards mental health issues

YouCantTourniquetTheTaint · 16/02/2023 20:30

I have PMDD too, so it's those symptoms but on steroids.

Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 20:33

OnMyWayToSenility · 16/02/2023 20:25

I'm 53 and most of my friend range from 45 to 62, I've never heard of psychosis in anyone due to menopause or peri menopause.

The only people who I have known had psychosis were in their 20's / 30's and mainly because of drugs and a history of physical and mental abuse or a propensity towards mental health issues

That is what we exactly questioning here ? It is connection but not enough research and not that much talk about. Psychosis is common in elderly age as well. After working at the hospital ward I have seen lots of antipsychotic drugs prescribed to elderly patients and the worse drug clozapine I suppose level of this psychosis connected to menopause is not so high to cause interest of researchers.

Bublemuble · 16/02/2023 20:35

3 out of 100 will go through psychosis but maybe 1 in 10000 through psychosis caused by menopause ??? I don't know ....

Companyofwolves · 16/02/2023 23:19

I think the impact of women’s hormones throughout the life cycle & their role in different mental health presentations in general is a massively under recognised & under researched area. Largely down to outdated patriarchal psychiatric practise where polypharmacy seems to be the predominant model of treatment. Don’t get me wrong antipsychotics, antidepressants & mood stabilisers all have their place & save lives on a regular basis. (Mine included).

But the reluctance to listen to the patient’s experience, the automatic discounting & rubbishing of the possibility of hormonal issues in mental health, is huge.

Louise Newson is doing work educating psychiatrists on the impact of Peri & Meno on MH & advocating they test hormone levels, proper vitamin/thyroid/B12 levels (not the shitty ones the GP’s do) & history taking of stage of life more seriously, as part of their assessments.
And where safe & clinically indicated - to consider a hormonal trial of HRT as part of/before/instead of any treatment.
Which would be huge if she were to get any traction. It’s a start at least.

As for direct evidence of menopause causing psychosis I’m sure the increased stress as a result of peri/menopause in those of us clinically vulnerable could certainly contribute to a person’s vulnerability to psychosis (& any other MH condition for that matter) & exacerbate existing conditions. Surely women deserve holistic health care to optimise all our systems in the body & brain which she says are hugely sensitive to fluctuations in oestrogen.

Including antidepressants & psychiatric drugs. Sorry to sound like a Newson devotee but apparently if you’re not properly “oestrogenised” certain antidepressants won’t work optimally. And some antipsychotics & mood stabilisers contain certain hormones that can mess up an already messed up mix of hormones during peri & meno.

Rather than being put on more (let’s be honest pretty toxic & horrific to withdraw from) drugs or a stronger dose - when you see your GP or psychiatrist as you feel your medication is no longer working, Newson advocates them making sure you’re fully oestrogenised first, (if in peri or menopause) otherwise your psychiatric medication may not have the best efficacy.

I really hope we see a move towards integrating peri & menopausal health into MH care, but I won’t hold my breath. It all sounds so good in theory but finding the correct dose, type & mix of HRT that even works for you is a challenge in itself.
And in those sensitive to mood fluctuations anyway, the impact of HRT could have very significant effects on mood & possibly require MH supervision & input even to get stabilised on the right dose.

So it’s a challenging area but not one that should be just swept under the carpet any more.

Companyofwolves · 16/02/2023 23:52

@samantha69 sorry to derail!

I haven’t experienced psychosis - you have my sympathy though it must have been terrifying to go through (having seen people go through it myself).
I do suffer with MH difficulties tho & am hoping to try HRT for mine (& other benefits too). I would be wary of stopping your meds & wld maybe get stabilised & “oestrogenised” on the correct HRT regime first. Louise Newson is (rightly) evangelical about HRT & I get so encouraged by her, but also read & hear all the stories on here where many just don’t get on with it. I’m really hoping I’m not that person & it changes my life but I’ve got to be realistic. Could it be that if you find a big improvement you look to reduce your dose under MH supervision when ready & then trial coming off them?
I know how it feels being stuck on medication when you feel it’s not helping /or the side effects are doing more harm than good. I’m struggling & want to give it a try as well (waiting for other medical procedures first). At least with HRT it is easy to come off & looking on the bright side could really be a help! Good luck 💐

Bublemuble · 17/02/2023 08:54

I'm Polish and I have friend in Poland she is clinical psychologist 2 years ago she went through something similar like psychosis but she didn't reach for help of specialists instead as a holistic person she went through special therapy based on taking high levels of vitamins and minerals. Maybe that's the way I wouldn't afford this therapy she swears it helped her.

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