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Menopause or depression

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menowhat · 18/01/2023 09:08

I recently turned 45 and have realised that recently I’m no longer motivated to do anything really..work, exercise, hobbies, house, relationship with husband, kids and friends, going out/away, watching tv.
I don’t know if this is January blues or something else. Anyone have similar experience and work it out?

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TheOGCCL · 18/01/2023 09:12

I was a couple of years younger when this happened to me and HRT (including testosterone) has helped ‘colourise’ my life again but I think at this life stage (40s) there are a myriad of things going on which makes it very hard to tell and it could be a combination of different factors.

menowhat · 18/01/2023 09:48

Thank you @TheOGCCL do you mind sharing how you started your hrt journey? e.g what prompted you to go to gp if that’s what you did, how did you know what to ask for, did gp do tests etc? It’s all alien to me 🙏

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LindaEllen · 18/01/2023 10:16

First of all, this time of year is absolutely awful. Particularly this year when a lot of us aren't keeping as warm as we used to. I generally feel bad at this time of year, but this year is worse, for sure.

It might be the menopause, seeing your GP should help. Trying ADs might be an option. I've been on mine for 2 years and they've helped massively.

Also what helps for me is making myself exercise and eat healthily. I have very little motivation to do either, but the different is stunning.

Admittedly I'm a lot younger and (hopefully!) a way off the menopause, but I thought I should reply anyway :).

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 18/01/2023 11:28

Well it could be either. I would take a look at this page which lists 34 symptoms which may be menopause related.

TheOGCCL · 18/01/2023 11:29

Hi @menowhat, I didn't ever seek treatment for low mood/depression, so HRT has helped me somewhat incidentally with that, as it has, looking back, with other things, eg my bladder. I sought help as a home hormone test showed my testosterone levels were really low which again looking back was making me feel weak and fatigued and very intolerant of exercise.

Although I found a private specialist willing to prescribe me just with testosterone (after a pointless detour via the endocrinology department of my local NhS hospital), they also said a) there were other benefits to standard HRT (oestrogen/progesterone) and b) that my body might start converting the testosterone to oestrogen if that started to run low too (which was inevitable given my age).

Anyway this is a somewhat unusual route into HRT so not necessarily that helpful but I think we are all have our own stories/experiences. The annoying thing is that not all doctors are in a position to give clear and confident advice, plus it's so hard to even see a doctor at the moment in some areas. I feel a lot of women are suffering alone.

There are no reliable tests you can do for menopause. Oestrogen fluctuates through the month. At 45 a 'diagnosis' should be done on symptoms (of which there about 40). Whilst it would be lovely to think there's a test that clears things up neatly, there isn't. Sometimes it's just trial and error eg take HRT for six months and see what happens.

I found Louise Newson's website and podcasts very useful whilst undertaking my research. She's become a slightly controversial figure as she clearly thinks most women should be on HRT and early. Personally I think we need someone like this to undo all the damage of the flawed 2002 study that led to HRT prescriptions dropping significantly. But as always it really is up to each person to decide what is right for them. We know our own bodies best, have particular family histories, and we all react differently. I'd been on the pill for years and my body loved it for balancing my hormones when others obviously react badly. I see HRT as a safer version of the pill particularly at my age (without the contraceptive bit of course!). I've had no side effects with progesterone when plenty of others do.

And then of course it could have absolutely nothing to do with your hormones! 40s can be a tough time if you have caring responsibilities and also the time when you realise you are definitely not young any more! The Happiness Curve is an interesting read for anyone feeling a bit dissatisfied in this decade.

PP is right that Jan is depressing plus the general state of things in the UK right now but you will know if this seems more than that as this isn't so new!

HufflepuffRavenclaw · 18/01/2023 11:30

Whoops...

www.theindependentpharmacy.co.uk/menopause-hrt/guides/menopause-symptoms

Obviously not all women get all of them. Some might just get one, or two. BE HONEST with yourself about what is going on with your body and if you tick a few menopause boxes it might be worth asking about HRT.

menowhat · 18/01/2023 12:05

Thanks for the page @HufflepuffRavenclaw I’ll have a proper look later on.
@TheOGCCL really appreciate such a thorough reply. I didn’t know there were home hormone tests so will look into that and I’ll check out Louise Newson’s site.
@LindaEllen I’m usually quite on the exercise front but have really lost my mojo. I hear you though and agree that it does wonders when you can make yourself do it! Thank you 🙏

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