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HRT. Do periods just carry on forever?

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blinder · 12/04/2022 09:14

I’ve been on HRT for a year now. My periods have settled back to pre-peri normality. Not heavy. Slight moodiness.
But, for those of you who have been on HRT for a while, do you still have periods or have they petered out now?

The thought of having periods in my nineties (assuming I make it that far!) is daunting!

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Caminante · 07/05/2022 10:30

JinglingHellsBells · 07/05/2022 09:40

what type and dose are you on @Caminante ? Patch? gel? Pills?

You certainly don't need to stop. I've been on it for around 14 years. I came off for a month a while back and felt awful - sleep issues. My consultant suggests a 'check' if women want to know how they feel not on it- ideally a 2-3 month break, then back onto it if they still have symptoms. That might be a talking point for your GP if they are stroppy.

However, at 5 years it's quite early days and if you feel well, there is no need to stop.

@JinglingHellsBells Estrogel (3 pumps) and Provera 2.5 mg

JinglingHellsBells · 07/05/2022 10:37

Caminante · 07/05/2022 10:30

@JinglingHellsBells Estrogel (3 pumps) and Provera 2.5 mg

@Caminante Have you considered changing to Utrogestan? Provera is a synthetic type and considered less safe re breasts than Utrogestan. Also, with Utrogestan you can increase the dose to control bleeding. The daily dose is 100mgs but recently the BMS suggested that women with erratic bleeding tried 200mgs daily.

Caminante · 07/05/2022 10:43

@JinglingHellsBells actually yes, that came up in the conversation with my GP the other day too--I'm more than happy to switch to Utrogestan. I'm going to give it a try.
Thank you so much for your help by the way!

WombatChocolate · 07/05/2022 10:49

Thanks Jingling.
I think my point is, that unless someone has read your post, they don’t know this stuff.

You say the bleeds are an inconvenience nothing more, and refer to ‘if people want’ - suggesting there is a choice to be had about continuous or sequential. But people aren’t told this or told there can be irregular bleeds, but it’s nothing to worry about. They then do worry and wonder if there is ominous significance in it. And they don’t know they can choose. People want to be instructed by their GP as they are taking prescribed items and aren’t confident to choose. This question about bleeding comes up every few days here and on other boards ….but what about all the women who aren’t part of forums and don’t find out the answers? And if asked, GPs offended don’t know. They say ‘it’s sequential to avoid breakthrough bleeding’ but never say if that’s an issue or why, or if there is actually flexibility to choose…..because I think they don’t know themselves and haven’t looked into it enough to give informed answers to the questions they get asked, never mind offering the key information BEFORE women even think of the Q.

Thats the point isn’t it…..lots of the Qs only occur to you after the initial appointment or after you start HRT. What women need is to be provided with all that info uproot to, before they even know these are questions they will wonder about.


  • If taking sequential, exactly when should one start, especially if there is no regular natural cycle.

  • What different possibilities are there for a bleed arising from this.

  • Whats the difference between a naturally occurring bleed and a HRT induced bleed and can you tell the difference?

  • Is there any bleeding/lack of bleeding that one should be worried about?

  • Does the timing of the bleeding matter or not?

  • If one gets irregular spotting, is it a concern?

  • When should a move to continuous be considered? Needs to be identified in terms of something women can identify and measure, not something like a year without periods.

  • Is it a problem to try and go continuous sooner? What consequences? Do these matter from a medical point of view? Are they dangerous?

  • Is continuous vital after a certain age/no periods?

  • Can dosages be adjusted? Within what parameters?

  • What next? Exact time for a review? Any tests needed?


These are standard questions that occur to women as they start HRT based on very limited info. Most women won’t ask most of them at an initial appointment and be left wondering. Why can’t GPs make sure they know that info in advance and give the info or provide a leaflet or link to a sheet that gives all these Qs and As. Even if you return to the GP with some of these, they don’t really know or can give an answer but not the REASONS why. Given peri menopause is a changing cycle and symptoms and HRT normally doesn’t remain static from the start to end but needs changing to suit the individual and their evolving menopause, it really shouldn’t be a ‘here’s your stuff and some vague and unclear guidance on how to take it today. Goodbye’.

Perhaps HRT is more complex because it’s so individualised in doses and because women go through the shift from peri to menopause differently and at different scales and speeds. GPs usually prescribe the conditions which follow more standard patterns or for shorter periods of time, so maybe HRT is more challenging to prescribe and provide info for.

I certainly think there’s probably too much and too many possibilities to cover it all verbally and for someone to take it all in. That’s why some kind of comprehensive document should be issued - lots won’t read it, it at least if they later have a Q, they can refer to it. Even some of the info sheets on useful websites don’t actually cover all of the key Qs women have or the reasons for the answers.

Perhaps it’s just me that wants to understand more and for whom asking questions and info gathering is just a key part of life!

EthicalNonMahogany · 07/05/2022 11:17

Could not agree more @WombatChocolate !
I have a similar question as @karma - I have been on HRT for about a year and my periods hadn't stopped before I began, I had relatively regular ones but lots of night sweats and anxiety/fatigue which the HRT has sorted.

Now I take the oestragel only and then add utrogestan in second half of month.

But my cycle seems out of kilter with the HRT. Sometimes all goes fine - I bleed neatly the day after stopping the progesterone and feel "ovulation-ish" in the middle of the month.

Other months though, it feels like my period wants to start on day 20 and I get pmt and it starts before I come off the progesterone and I feel rubbish - constipation, achy joints, general "it's a bad PMT" sort of feeling.

Other months it feels like I stop the progesterone on day 28 and assume I'll be bleeding within a few days then don't bleed for over week. I'm.then bleeding, say, day 10-14 of the next cycle, and that seems to be the time when it should be building up the womb lining on oestrogen only??
Why would I then need progesterone again the day after I stop the bleed?

So in short - I have a natural cycle "underneath" the HRT cycle and warring with it!
What do I do in terms of taking the drugs?
At the moment I take oestrogel every day and then occasionally tweak the start date of the progesterone so it all feels more aligned.
But I don't think that's right! However if I do it by the calendar it isn't managing my symptoms as my cycle is still sort of there.

JinglingHellsBells · 07/05/2022 11:34

The underlying issue @WombatChocolate is that Gps have no training in menopause and HRT. Anything they do know is a result of them choosing some CPD such as the courses run by the British Menopause Society. There are many of these over the year, some online, and include everything you have suggested. thebms.org.uk/education/rcog-bms-menopause-advanced-training-skills-module/ almost one a month!

Sadly, many GPs don't seem interested.

I know it ought not be necessary but if possible, it's better to see a specialist and have access to their knowledge. Again, I know that the NHS ought to provide and women shouldn't need to pay for private medical care. The cost of a couple of appts over a year might be £400-£500 which I KNOW can be out of the question for some, but if not, it's your health and wellbeing and worth doing.

JinglingHellsBells · 07/05/2022 11:36

thebms.org.uk/meeting/bms-31st-annual-scientific-conference/

It's now sold out so maybe that means there is some hope re. GPs!

MVision · 07/05/2022 14:28

so If the sequential regime is not causing any issues is there any reason to go on to continuous if the risk of cancer is slightly greater with it. I often have no bleed after the 14 days of progesterone so this regime is working for me

Runaround50 · 07/05/2022 15:05

Total minefield!
What happens if you hadn't had a period for 27 months and then just bleed on every type of HRT known to man??

I've been told that the bleeding isn't a period, but hormonal stimulation of the womb lining. Then why, does it look and feel like a blooming period??

Im getting a Mirena fitted soon and I swear to god, if I bleed, that's the end of HRT. It's SO tricky to navigate. 🤦‍♀️🤦‍♀️

JinglingHellsBells · 07/05/2022 15:52

MVision · 07/05/2022 14:28

so If the sequential regime is not causing any issues is there any reason to go on to continuous if the risk of cancer is slightly greater with it. I often have no bleed after the 14 days of progesterone so this regime is working for me

It should be your choice. I expect most GPs work to the 'rule' however.

ImAvingOops · 07/05/2022 19:06

@EthicalNonMahogany , my cycle is like this too. Last bleed was 23 days since the start of the last one. Other bleeds can be at start of oestrogen part of HRT, but just as easily in the part where I'm on progesterone (I'm on the sequential patches)
Maybe you could speak to the prescriber in your doctor's surgery pharmacy. Mine knows way more about HRT that the doctor. She is monitoring my cycle for the next month or so snd has discussed delaying the mixed oestrogen/progesterone patches and just using oestrogen gel for extra days to try and sync my natural cycle with the HRT bleed. I think you'd probably want to do it with someone knowledgeable monitoring it but she has said it's definitely possible. We are also waiting a bit until the oestrogel shortages are over because you would need proper supplies to do this.

EthicalNonMahogany · 07/05/2022 19:15

ah that's useful to know

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